I’m so glad he skips movies he would have ruined
Strongly agree. As an actor Will Smith always brings some sass to movies. I feel like he would’ve ruined a few scenes. Especially him teasing Agent Smith unnecessarily.
He slapped a man on national television because he made a joke about his wife. That wasn’t even a mean joke, it was just in somewhat bad taste. (He was also laughing at the joke until he saw his wife roll her eyes at it)
He is quite dumb
She’s basically his boss tbh. It does not seem like a healthy relationship
She fucks other dudes and talks about it on TV. She’s his Dom, and an unhealthy one.
He didn’t want to have to go home in the same limo with her screaming at him for not defending her in front of the whole world. So he destroyed his Oscar winning night, his reputation, and his career, because he was too afraid of her acting like a psychopath.
And she probably did it anyway.
I’ve been in that relationship too. It really fucks with you.
Yeah but, what if you could star in this instead?
A cool thing about being tone deaf is that I can’t tell who voices who.
A sad thing is I can’t tell hot water vs cold water being poured. Finding out people could do that seemed like a super power to me.
I usually just wait for a subtle hints of steam building up inside the boiler. To be clear, i think shark tale is really not bad, at all. But it’s weird. I have a dvd of this movie
How is this different from regular deafness?
The problem is that there’s no such thing as “regular” deafness (same for blindness). It’s a spectrum with several different types.
You can be deaf but still capable of hearing, and you can be blind and still be capable of seeing. Although in a diminished capacity.
In the case of being tone deaf, you struggle to differentiate different pitches.
I can hear, I just hear things more monotone.
I can tell accents and volume levels apart though. Tonal languages are very difficult.
I have never even thought about this
Will smiths thing is most similar to dwayne johnson, he wanted to be the LEAD or the most prominent actor and not the side character
What do you mean, he played the genie, and, oh right…
His acting as the genie was OK. But it was very clear that he was acting in the shadow of Robin Williams for that role. It is kinda hard to move away from that one however.
Agreed and his personality takes over the story which works for men in black but I don’t think it would for the matrix.
Wild Wild West was ok too
I don’t get people sometimes. Here’s a hollywood elite who thinks they have the ability to physically assault another person (and so fucking brazenly in front of the whole world) and never be held responsible. Fuck Will Smith and anything he profits from including recognition of past performances. Comments in here are acting like a bunch of wannabe-nostalgia-cucks who don’t care as long as the individual did a silly little dance and entertained them some. Dude needs serious rehabilitation and a reality check which will never come to him because people would rather talk about his performances instead of the actual person.
Also, yes. He dumb.
All the way, my brother! Fuck Will Smith and his whole fucking family.
He also turned down Django Unchained. Will Smith is just shit at picking roles.
Thank God. He would have ruined it.
he’s also extremely dedicated to maintaining his brand. turning down Django Unchained does feel like a HUGE wiff to me though. Django is basically Deadshot if Deadshot lived in the Antebellum South (presumably after the California gold rush since he spends some time in Colorado). maybe Tarantino films can’t ever fit the Will Smith toxic positivity brand?
Yea, but isn’t a kind of big part of his brand that he is technically family friendly? Like he didn’t use bad language in his music and stuff, right? Django Unchained but rated PG-13 would have been an entirely different movie…
Will can’t help but be himself in a movie. Instead of… You know… “Act”.
I don’t want the alternate Django Unchained where Will Smith starts rappin and getting jiggy with it.
I mean, he’s picked plenty of bangers.
Sometimes there’s scheduling conflicts. Sometimes a director casts a wide net, knowing he’s going to get a bunch of rejections. Sometimes you get roped into a project as a favor or a quid pro quo (Vin Disel coming back for a cameo in FF: Tokyo Drift to get Chronicles of Riddick made, only to end up making nine more movies and counting) and it changes your career.
I honestly can’t think of the last will smith movie I enjoyed
Gemini was kind of entertaining, but I wouldn’t go as far as calling it “good”.
I wasn’t bored while watching it, but I wouldn’t really recommend it to anyone.
EXACTLY.
Bad Boys for Life was fun.
Why does Will Smith in Django Unchained make me think of Wow Wow.
maybe he just didnt get the point of the story or something. I dont think you can act well if you cant get into the character
In general, will smith has always been an action type of guy in his roles, but to do that he always needed to have clear motivations. I guess a nested dream in a dream isn’t functional for this type of actor.
Well, and the fact that back then these movies were almost a gamble you know, like now we treat them as cult classics, but than they were absolutely new and nobody know what they were about.
I’m sure Keano was the right choice there. I could see him handling the Matrix if he walked into it in bewilderment like the original Men in Black movie. He’d be fine up until somewhere around the Oracle. I think when things started coming together, and he needed to start commanding his own destiny, the suspension of disbelief would have dropped.
I suppose I could see Inception as being a very risky film based on the script, to be completely fair
and at the time, that was only a third of the way through Nolan’s career as a blockbuster director. not even, actually
I dunno if I would call Inception a gamble, it’s Christopher Nolan
Maybe Will Smith actually tried to read Baudrillard to get a grip on some basic concepts behind the movie. However, english translations of Baudrillard are fucking awful and borderline unreadable (common issue with scary french philosophers for some reason) so he gave up. Also - fuck Will Smith. Denzel should’ve starred in The Enemy of the State.
Timely reference to Baudrillard with his map metaphor. Nice.
it would be really funny if someone making Borges’ On Exactitude in Science adaptation starring Keanu Reeves and Steve Coogan as his evil twin
Would you believe that Denzel had made the call?
dunno. but he would’ve been infinitely better than Will Smith.
Ever heard about his wife?
He has a wife, you know?Her name is Infragantia… Infragantia Cuckolds
HOW DARE YOU
The bald one?
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Making fun of a black woman for alopecia is kinda low… You’re better than that. At least I hope so.
Nah sure, giant mecha-spider in the Wild West is more straightforward I guess.
(Speaking of which Kevin Smith did a ride of a story about a superman movie that never got made, which ties into that very same Mecha-spider)
I enjoy Kevin Smith story time far more than his movies.
I think you mean the Thanagarian Snare-beast.
Superman hides behind a rock
Wild West was a fantastic movie and I’m sad they never mad a sequel.
Oh I’m not knocking it, I thought it was a good movie. Hell I should watch it again sometime.
Will Smith has that particular balance between a huge blockbuster story but bringing it with his particular comedy factor. I don’t like him as much in serious tone stuff. In that regard he probably made the right choice with the Matrix.
Some people are not set up for science fiction or fantasy at all. Will Smith is a borderline case, though.
I think with The Matrix specifically it has to do with the physicality. Late 90s Will Smith was in shape and could do big, bombastic action, but I can’t imagine him doing precise martial arts moves without it looking like a comedy.
Thats what we all said about Keanu. He was a joke at the time. Or rather basically type cast. Even in the more serious roles he was pretty goofy. Speed comes to mind. The Matrix gave me and many i know a bigger liking for the young silly Ted Logan.
Point Break? I think Keanu was a heart throb who could do action, but who had started in comedy. Will Smith was more a comedic actor who could do action, but was mostly doing action-comedy.
Yeah but that would go both ways. Imagine he did the matrix and it maybe worked out. People would now be like: can you imagine the shitty actor Keanu Reeves was going to play neo in the matrix?
Didn’t you do a sci-fi with his kid? I’ve never seen it and I have no idea what it was about or what it was called but I’m sure it was a sci-fi.
He’s done quite a bit of sci-fi! Off the top of my head I can think of
- Men in Black
- I, Robot
- I am Legend
- Independence Day
Basically the same character in all those movies. Not a criticism but it’s the same dude. Neo is not a bad ass running down a cephalopod. He’s learning and adapting to a system and using his mind. I just dont see it working out as well as he is a front man, not a team. He takes over the story with personality.
None of those films feature any science.
Neither does The Matrix, but it’s still firmly planted in the realm of science fiction.
That’s why it is called science fiction!
Oh yeah I’d forgotten he was in independent day. That’s not a slight against him, I’ve just not seen it in ages.
The only reason I didn’t include things like I robot as sci-fi is it’s only surface level sci-fi. You could easily have made it be about Orcs and demons and it would have fitted.
I was trying to think if he had been in any hard sci-fi and the only thing I can think of is that film with his kid in it. No idea what it was called.
I watch Independence Day every 4th of July, but what I like to call the “abridged version” where I watch until the aliens blow up the White House and then I’m done =)
After Earth. It’s kinda lightweight as far as sci fi goes.
Independence Day is my favourite movie with Will Smith, my second favourite is the one where he is fighting Zombies can’t recall the name. He was for a good long while the most bankable actor of colour in Hollywood ahead of Danzel and Morgan Freeman. TENET would have been a different movie with him alongside Robert Pattinson. The sad thing is how he raised his children to become part of the publicity machine instead of seeking out academic excellence. He fed them directly into the maw of the media machine where the last name and nepotism rule the roost. Sad really I am sure some of that can be laid at the feet of his practice of scientology.
2 things:
- I just recently learned that the “monsters” in I Am Legend were not zombies, they were vampires and they were supposed to be fully sentient… The movie adaptation missed the mark so much it is basically a completely different and unrecognizable story from the book.
- why is there a tag or something next to your name that says “Bot”? Is that supposed to be there? Is that something buggy happening in the front end I am using?
The Bot thing is because the system has decided that VPN use indicates automated account creation. I am not and its annoying but this nothing I can do anything about
You don’t see an option in your user settings?
You are right I just noticed I changed it by unchecking the option. Thank you.
I try to point it out to everyone I see who is marked as a bot who seems human because you can also enable an option to filter all self marked bots out.
Totally appreciate it. I will make sure I ask anyone I see now too. Tnanks again
If i had a nickel for every book to movie adaptation that completely missed the mark, well id have two nickels.
Not blaming him, I think he is a very enjoyable actor. Maybe not top tier, but I see why hes A list.
Can’t watch him in anything since he hit Chris Rock. It ruined his characters in nearly every thing he was ever in.
I feel that was an incredibly embarrassing moment for Will, obviously totally inappropriate. That and some other things he has done have made me mindful about spending my money on anything he is in.
But watching stuff on my jailbroke streaming device? Ill still enjoy him from time to time.
I cant say I blame anyone who is done with any particular garbage celeb or artist. I get it.
Yeah I haven’t come across a movie or show hes in that I thought was worth it despite thinking hes a shitty person, but it could happen. I almost watched I am legend a week ago but decided not to. I’ll probably still watch men in black from time to time though, mostly for nostalgia.
They even had an ending in the movie that was closer to the original , but they cut it/changed it because it didn’t test well.
I’d guess that was because it was an ending that followed the original storyline and didn’t make sense without the rest of the movie also following the original storyline.
spoiler
It turns out (or is apparent in general) that the “zombies” are sentient/sapient and to them he’s the monster in the dark(or daylight as is the case here), from their point of view he’s basically been abducting people for experimentation and killing anyone who comes looking for their abducted family.
The zombie/vampire guy at the end is just looking for his partner to rescue her, once he has her, he leaves.
Just tagging on to add that if you haven’t read the novella I Am Legend by Richard Matheson, it’s worth your time.
It has been adapted to film three times that I know of. The first was The Last Man on Earth, starring Vincent Price. Matheson was so upset with the finished product that he refused to allow his name on the film even though he wrote the original screenplay. The second was The Omega Man with Charlton Heston, which has its flaws but is still the best adaptation IMO.
I had high hopes for the Will Smith film in 2007, but the creatures and the ending were entirely wrong.
The original story is great, but it’s such a slow burn with a mindfuck ending that I have given up hope of ever seeing an accurate portrayal on film. It would have to be something on the level of a passion project from Peter Jackson or Guillermo del Toro, from a director who loved the source material enough not to change it significantly.
Ah yes, great book. The film is fun but completely fails to adapt the point of the book.
I don’t really know anything about how he raised his kids or any of that jazz, but his daughter makes some pretty rad music.
That’s cool. His son is a lunatic.
edit: Oh my bad, I meant Jaden Smith is a well adjusted, grounded, young scholar.
Is the Left 4 Dead mod that replaces the safe room wall writings with his tweets still maintained?
That’s one of the best use for mods I’ve heard of. Shit would be hilarious
Is the movie you’re thinking of “I Am Legend”
Thank you! thats the one. The wreckage of the modern world they built onscreen was compelling,
The jiggy with guy dumb?
The wild wild west guy dumb?
Yes
Let’s all get jiggy with it!
I honestly think he’s kind of a child or childish. I had always suspected it from some odd bits and pieces in lyrics gushing over the Cuban cigar in Jiggy, then feeling the need to point out that he won’t light it, it’s just for the look. I love that the rumor mill thought Nas wrote the lyrics in whole. The slap kinda sinched it, It looked like a grade schooler defending their girlfriend.
I mean, props that he did something about it, but he should have at least tried to act like he was a badass. He’s a fucking actor for god sakes.
I honestly think he’s kind of a child or childish.
Becoming rich and famous at a young age is probably terrible for one’s development.
He became a successful recording artist at 18, became a TV star at 22, and had a wildly successful run in both music and acting throughout his entire 20’s and early 30’s.
He never had a normal life, and it probably baked in a lot of things that one would normally outgrow by the age of 25 or 30.
I’ve heard it said that the age you get rich at is the age you stop developing.
I can look forward to a life of developing. Like a lot :c
props that he did something about it, but he should have at least tried to act like he was a badass
Wow, I didn’t realize the alpha-bros had found Lemmy!
The correct response to a comedian telling a joke at your partner’s expense is to smile awkwardly and do nothing in the moment. What Will did was so out of bounds it was sad and pathetic.
I don’t appreciate your name-calling. Please check your toxicity at the door.
That’s fucking rich! The douche who thinks public assault is A-okay can’t handle a little name-calling when it’s directed at him. Get bent you ginormous twat-waffle.
That song is Miami, and I agree he’s a child but tobacco is definitely disgusting and he’s smart for skipping it.
Skipping it is fine, but skip singing about it then :) The kid part is wanting to look like he’s into cigars.
https://genius.com/Will-smith-miami-lyrics Miami does not mention a cigar.
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/willsmith/gettinjiggywitit.html
Here with this handsome kid, ciga-cigar Right from Cuba-Cuba, I just bite it It's for the look, I don't light it“Gettin’ Jiggy Wit It” does
Django Unchained too.
Thank the lord!
Yeah, no joke lol. Jamie Foxx absolutely knocked it out the park.
I thought they considered Smith for DiCaprios role, like in Inception.
Oh yeah that’s right, the DiCaprio role was going to be a Clayton Bigsby type
Will Smith is a perfectly fine action hero, romantic and comedic star. But I struggle to see him pull something that nuanced off. Has he ever been a villain?
Started skimming wiki out of curiosity. Suicide Squad very technically? I am legend makes the best case for it, but even that is played very hero.
