399 responses and counting. I got bore going through them. The train, apparently is VERY long and indeed will take a VERY long time to pass.

AI is now a catch-all acronym that is becoming meaningless. The old, conventional light switch on the wall of the house I first lived in some 70 years ago could be classified as 'AI. The switch makes a decision, based on what position I put it in. I turn the light on, it remembers that decision and stays on. The thing is, the decision was first made by me and the switch carried out that decision, based on criteria that was designed into it.

That is, AI still does not make any decision that humans have not designed it to make in the first place.

What is needed, is a more appropriate terminology, describing the actual process of what we call AI. And really, the more appropriate descriptor would not be Artificial Intelligence, but Human-made Intelligent devices. All of these so-called AI devices and applications are, after all, completely human designed and human made. The originating Intelligence still comes from the minds of humans.

Most of the applications which we call Artificial Intelligence are actually Algorithmic Intelligence - decisions made based on algorithms designed by humans in the first place. The devices just follow these algorithms. Since humans have written these algorithms, it should really be no surprise that these devices are making decisions very similar to the decisions humans would make. Duhhh. We made them in our own image, no wonder they ‘think’ like us.

Really, these AI devices do not make decisions, they merely follow the decisions humans first designed into them.

Big Blue, the IBM chess playing computer, plays excellent chess because humans designed it to play chess, and to make chess decisions, based on how humans first designed the chess game.

What would be really scarry would be if Big Blue decided of its own volition that it no longer wanted to play chess, but it wanted to play a game it designed.

Fascism. Apparently.

AND the huge AR/metaverse wave!

It will eventually, when people realize it’s just a giant and complex statistical response machine. It’s really just giving you the words and/or set of pixels back that are the usual response to the words you provided. If there was no training data, there would be no AI.

It’s like a parrot, but more complex and requires nuclear power plants to generate enough power to keep it going.

You know what pisses me off?

My so-called creative peers generating AI slop images to go with the music that they are producing.

I’m pretty sure they’d be up in arms if they found out that an AI produced tune got to the top 10 on Beatport.

One of the more popular AI movements right now is DJs creating themselves as action figures.

The hypocrisy is hilarious.

The AI hype will pass but AI is here to stay. Current models already allow us to automate processes which were impossible to automate just a few years ago. Here are some examples:

• Detecting anomalies in roentgen and CT-scans
• Normalizing unstructured information
• Information distribution in organizations
• Learning platforms
• Stock photos
• Modelling
• Animation

Note, these are obvious applications.

Just like that ridiculous “internet” hype train from a couple of years ago

Not a tech bro but have watched a few channels of people who are:

First off a lot of people have jumped on ai in comments. So I will too. But to the question raised - if you are taking about “establishment/established tech bros” and if by ‘jump on’ you mean innovate then I say nothing. If you look at a lot of leading lights in all sort of fields a person often gets one idea and that makes their fortune - and the rest of their ideas are shit. Zuckerburg’s metaverse anyone? This is true of companies too that appear to become ossified. Because, like you know - Widows 11 is orgasmic. So what orgasmic idea will come to the fore from some unknown: it is not possible to say because it will come from the unknown. All the sci-fi of 70 years ago thought it would be talking watches, no one guessed the phone would be the utilitarian tech.

However there are fads and forcing use and so on. So tech bros will jump on whatever is the next fad or thing that is forced into use (implanted microchips for id, 24 hour tracking, payments… social credit scores anyone? I mean its what the mobile phone is doing anyway).

To ai: imo we need to separate general ai, ie Chat GTP, deepseek etc from more narrowly trained ai use cases. The general ai have (almost) run out of data to (freely) train upon: in fact there is a worry that it’s starting to eat itself - that is, ai is consuming ai generated content to train itself (ie mad ai): also the line on the graph is flattening as far as performance is concerned. AI that is trained for specific tasks however I feel is a different animal: think material sciences or cancer research. However in everyday use with a few years I can see you asking for a song that “is heavy with a punkish sound using violins about the folly of using a rotating wire brush as a masturbation tool” and there it is (though is it here now? I can’t keep up). Depending on where these are (freeware, open commons, closed propriety) depends on what happens: Spotify/the music distributors could become totalising monopolies of music, or they could implode. In ten years you could be saying “make a film about a man scarred for life by said wire brush”: sure it’s take days and only be 360p to start ---- to start. Again creative commons or monopolies?

So: “It’s a bit hard” DIY on personal computers, or “easy as the cloud” and marketed and convenient and just pay a monthly subscription: I think we all know the answer - because we are lazy and stupid:

That is why we will welcome the chip into our wrists.

Ars making a comeback soon I bet

OP here to clarify: With AI Hype Train I meant the fact that so many people are slapping AI onto anything just to make it sound cool like at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if a bidet company slapped AI into one of their bidets…

I’m not saying AI is gonna go anywhere or doesn’t have legitimate uses but currently there is money in AI and everybody wants to get AI into their things to be cool & capitalize on the hype:

Same thing with NFT’s and blockchains. The technology behind it has it’s legitimate uses but not everyone is slapping it onto things like a few years ago just to make fast bank.

I very sadly don’t see it going anywhere because of how much money has been invested by big tech corporations such as Google, Amazon, and Microsoft.

Reason they’re willing to put so much money into these corporations is because they’re being built on their cloud infrastructure, which the different AI companies pay for. So either way, they end up getting more money and becoming more influential, even if the AI hype eventually dies out.

I mean much of the hype is warranted I just wish every man and his dog would spare us their personal revelations about it on LinkedIn.

AI, in some form, is here to stay, but the bubble of tech companies shoving it into everything will pop at some point. As for what that would look like, it would probably be like the dot-com bubble.

AI is here to stay imo. This is not crypto