• ZebulonP@lemmy.world
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    I know a lot of people in the comments don’t like this. And they’re perfectly valid. One solution doesn’t work for everyone and it misses a lot of nuance.

    That being said, I actually did something like this for my social anxiety, which was damn near debilitating. I had to constantly remind myself that none of what I’m doing is risky or dangerous. Im just gonna roll with the punches. And if I do something that I might cringe about later, fuck it. Do i really care about what strangers think? And if the people I do know are of any value, they won’t chastize me for being a bit odd. So just own it.

    This took years to get through. I basically brute forced myself through the social interactions until the anxiety was nowhere near as strong. I still have it, but my job forces me to talk to new people all the time. It got manageable. Maybe something like that could work for someone else.

    This is not medical advice, and I strongly suggest you talk with a therapist if you have these issues. I was just too poor to do anything else about it.

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      CBT is a practice, though. You have to work at it. You don’t just decide to think different. Bad cognitive habits, like any other bad habit, take a lot of time and effort to work through.

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        I would assume the OP meant it as something to work towards, not a day 1 cure. But I do see how it reads as “just don’t be anxious duh”

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    So I’ve tried to this and it doesn’t work.

    I tried going to work for fun, but it wasn’t and I suspect that if I leave early that won’t be fun either.

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    This doesn’t work for an introvert with social anxiety. I have no problem with job interviews, but an invitation to join people for an outing, where the point is to “have fun”? I’d still have to put in the mental and emotional effort to participate in such a group activity. I find it draining.

    If I didn’t spend that energy every day to work, I’d have more of it for fun things in my time off. But the way things are, I only get two days of the week to not have to put that effort in, to recharge my social battery. I cherish those days. No worrying about how others might misinterpret a comment, no monitoring my tone of voice, no masking to pretend I’m having fun when I’m not. I can do what I want without anybody else caring. It’s freeing. It’s hard for social engagements to compete with that.

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    I have a doctor’s appointment tomorrow to find out why my legs have been weak and unsteady. For fun.

    Am I… am I doing this right? Did I cure anxiety yet?

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    This is free advice from a medium expensive counselor who mostly works on insurance reimbursement:

    Most modern pop psychology is finding a way to repackage “try not to think about it” into more palatable terms because a great deal of “mental illness” is directly attributable to systemic issues that have no end in sight

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      “Doc, I feel like I’m always being watched and the world is hurdling towards ruin”

      1976: you’re paranoid and crazy

      2026: sometimes being well-informed can be mentally taxing and you need to take a break

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      I’m not a therapist but I’ve certainly visted more than my share.

      “try not to think about it” is pretty much the antithesis of modern therapy.

      directly attributable to systemic issues that have no end in sight

      this part is true.

      Broadly there are several potential solutions:

      Firstly, changing the way that we think about events. If my company is insolvent would that mean I’m a bad business person or would it mean the economy is a mess. This is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy - changing the behavior of our thought processes.

      Secondly, accepting that things might go wrong and not being paralysed by that fear. My company might become insolvent, it wouldn’t be the end of the world if it did, I’m going to take action to mitigate that problem. This is Acceptance Commitment Therapy - accepting the risk of bad things and committing to some kind of action.

      Thirdly, living in the moment, observing thoughts both positive and negative coming and going. This is mindfulness.

      In summary, anxiety or worry is a healthy and normal part of human existence. We’re hard wired to avoid threats and we do that by foreseeing risks and planning around them. Trying not to worry is how the healthy and normal experience becomes debilitating.

      I’m sure a real therapist will be along any moment to tell me all about how wrong my summary is. I’m ok with that.

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      because a great deal of “mental illness” is directly attributable to systemic issues that have no end in sight

      But absolutely nothing in the screenshot is attributable to systemic issues that have no end in sight 🤔 Anxiety around the things he listed can literally be cured through just doing them, aka exposure

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      systemic issues that have no end in sight

      Some would disagree, just ask scientists how long the current trajectory can remain.

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          It’s more that capitalism is causing “the end of the world”. Between now and the total deaths of all life on earth, I remain hopeful that there will be some positive systematic change before it gets too far.

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          Yes, because science can be used to show measurable ways the world is actively ending right now.

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          That was probably true about the divine right of kings, hundreds of years ago. Things change

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            It changed because private citizens were able to join together and accumulate enough wealth to match the private treasuries of a local monarch and fund private armies to act as revolutionary elements that threatened their local monarch with overwhelmingly disproportionate strength and forced them to capitulate.

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      I think the post is great advice not communicated clearly.
      Don’t try making yourself believe important things are unimportant, practice.
      Apply for a job you don’t want or need. Get documents when you’re already qualified for a fast track and could skip at any time. Do the long procedure just to see if it was possible had the other ways not worked out.
      Have something changed that really doesn’t matter.

      This is calling for bureaucracy training.

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      I think the advice is true for things you can not realistically change. But finding out if you can’t change it or why something is bothering you is key here.

      For me existential dread was a sign of my body to take the next step and start a family.

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      Someone literally said this to me once about depression. “That’s what I did and it worked for me, so if you’re still depressed it’s because you’re choosing to be.”

      I almost chose to Jazz-yeet him out of the house.

      Anyway, it turned out the main reason for my depression was that I had been surrounded by toxic assholes for too long. Things vastly improved when I chose to change that so I guess it did work in a roundabout way.

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      It’s sound advice and if someone can’t incorporate it into their lives, they need to see a psychiatrist for medication. The psychologist will send you to one if they think you can’t get there with out meds.

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        Psychotherapy shouldn’t be about “getting advice”. It’s about finding the “knots” deep down in your psycho-emotional structure which are causing your problems. But maybe I am just too much of a psychoanalysis fanboy.