Russia
Ms-13 hasn’t made it to the White House
Russia has
Sad but true
Considering Russia kind of just put the final nail in the coffin for your democracy, probably Russia
Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost - the “homegrown” criminal gang.
Seriously, had you heard about MS-13 before Trump?
Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost
Soooooooo…. You’re saying Russia then.
Yeah but taking out Putin won’t help as much now.
Yes
It was probably one of the few buttons america even had before trump.
Ms-13, Isis, Blm and that was fox news
Ms-13, Isis, Blm and that was fox news
E-xactly.
Glorifying gang culture was really popular in the 90’s-2000’s so I was definately slightly aware of ms-13 from someplace. Maybe law and order or some other show mentioned it. I was never really aware of DT until he ran for president.
I guess it depends on how many nuclear weapons MS-13 has.
Israel.
The death toll from Israel supporting Americans exponentially dwarfs the number of Americans harmed by MS-13.
I don’t see a MS-13 hand shoved firmly up Trump’s ass, so…
I’m going to go with option C, the Trump regime… We need to be more worried about them and how they ate dismantling our democracy.
Trump, GOP, MAGA > Russia > China > MS-13
You forgot israel (AIPAC)
Threats to the US
A lapdog isn’t a threat except to reputation, even if they’re not on your side. Same reason North Korea isn’t on the list of threats.
Even if they have influence, it’s not exactly domestic policy, otherwise you’d have to add the IRA to the list also.
Israel is deporting American students for excersizing their free speech.
Israel has more influence than the first amendent.
Israel is definitely an existential threat to the United States. They are trying their best to get us involved in multiple wars.
They also have congress and the presidency bought.
We are basically funding the genocide they are committing. Meanwhile, Israel has universal health care and lots of other social safety nets that American citizens do not.
Russia, biggest mafia in the world, and also funds White supremecist/right wing groups all over the worlds.
And US presidents
And Brexit, people think. Russia is dangerous to the whole of the world.
yup, also funds fox(works closely with MURDOCH), which russia today version in the US.
Trump.
We count that as russia.
No you dont
We do
Trump and Tulsi gabbard have said Rusaian talking points nearly word for word in public settings. They are Russian assets the only question is if they know they are Russian assets
Depends on context. If the context is “planning a holiday in El Salvador”, maybe MS-13 is relevant. Beyond being worried about impact on others’ lives, MS-13 is largely irrelevant to Americans and most people that I’ve encountered never heard of them before 2016.
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at. That article says in multiple places, and even implies it with the scare quotes in the title, that they didn’t find a bunch of gang members in that complex. So what exactly are you trying to say?
Here’s a few quotes from that article:
Aurora Police Department Interim Chief Heather Morris said in a statement on Friday that “gang members have not taken over” the complex.
“I’m not saying that there aren’t gang members that don’t live in this community,” Morris said. “But what we’re learning out here is that gang members have not taken over this complex.”
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Morris stated that the local authorities have “really made an effort” in recent days to ask specific questions about gang activity in the area and at the complex.
“Making sure that people aren’t paying rent to gang leaders or gang members,” she said.
According to Morris, the residents they’ve spoken with have assured them that this isn’t happening, and she believes they are being honest.
“We’re standing out here, and I can tell you that gang members have not taken over this complex.”
…sure. Then try this one.
“While the city continues to dispute the claims of a gang takeover, Jurinsky has released a series of photos, videos and email exchanges she says prove the problem is worse than city officials have let on.”
…and you guys also forgot to mention the border state of New York.
This border state problem is a national problem.
Just curious but have you looked into that story on the Aurora apartment complex past the reactionary headlines you’re cherry picking? It’s way more nuanced and has little to do with gangs. I kind of find it funny that you decided to backtrack with a different article because you didn’t even read the first one you posted.
As for some nypost gibberish, I don’t care to read it. It’s obvious you’re a reactionary and have an agenda. The “immigrant problem” is a racist nationalistic bullhorn, and I suspect you fall into that crowd. Unless of course you support returning the US to the people that aren’t immigrant ancestors? Perhaps we could find some common ground there.
Idk anything about ms 13 so I can’t try to assess them as a threat. But I have a hard time imagining a gang or terror group coming close to russia in terms of threat to Americans
I find it peculiar we never heard about ms-13 until a few months ago (at most).
One of my best friends came from el Salvador. They fled because of the gang violence, I’ve known her since we were about 12. She was the one who told me about MS13. But it wasn’t something that was mainstream media worthy because it was a big issue there.
It depends on the media you consume. This is no doubt a blind spot to most liberal media consumers, but conservative media has covered MS-13, sometimes extensively, especially in the months leading up to the 2024 POTUS election. We also heard about TdA, Tren de Aragua, in no small part because of Jose Ibarra, who raped & murdered Laken Riley.
- international: Russia (and their puppet, Trump)
- domestic: we have enough racist, fascist domestic terrorists (ex. Proud Boys, Patriot Front, etc., etc.) that pose far more of a threat to the US than MS-13
The only other time I had ever heard of MS-13 was the psychopathic rantings of a former cop I worked with briefly. Hmmm… wonder why they aren’t a cop anymore?
ironically russia also fund those white supremecy groups to, they have been known to, sow division in the us, and other countries.
Well my retirement isn’t down because of ms-13
Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don’t fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on hurt people and the people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.
Russia. MS-13 is nothing in comparison. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if Russia supports MS-13 as part of their hybrid warfare. That’s how they work.
Understand that Russia has largely been able to put US to its knees through hybrid methods that utilize and enhance the negative effects of american arrogance, neoliberal dogmatism and the war on drugs. Trump is the final stage before the empire comes down. It’s probably too late to turn the ship around by now. China + EU is already the facto world leaders and the US is doing everything to destroy itself and there is no real political and economical self-awareness among people with power.
The US should have started to decrease inequality, stop the war on drugs and enforced (sane) tariffs and migration policies 15 years ago. The EU has the same problems, but there isn’t the same level of inequality and political extremism and fundamentalism, which makes me believe that the EU will survive as a western democracy and relevant world player, but the US will not.
