As someone from the west coast and now living on the east coast, the number one thing I can say is… the food sucks. All of it.
East coast food culture sucks.
Its either bland or some unholy pairing of bullshit (that also sucks). And I also think they go out of their way to make things wrong.
Try to order a “California Burrito” (if you dont know, Google it, pretty common), so what does Virginia think goes in it? Chicken, steak and shrimp and beans… thats not “choice of meat”, that all 3 together. None of which is what is a California Burrito is…
Here in Viriginia they just fuck up everything. Order a Philly Cheesesteak… what do they put in it? Fucking lettuce and tomatoes… what’s not in it, fucking cheese. You get more authentic subs from big chains like Subway. Like these people dont have the internet to search.
Oh, and sit down at a Mexican restaurant, theyll bring you chips with white sauce. Everyone else is thinking “oh cool queso”. No, not queso… its mayo with some onion powder… these mf serve tortilla chips with mayonnaise…
Just grabbed some dinner with the kid at a Mexican restaurant in town… all I wanted was a burrito and they wouldn’t give it to me. Just one Cali burrito and they wouldn’t give it to me…
Just tell them how to make it, or make sure they look it up. Don’t let “get creative” with it. If it doesnt have fries IN the burrito, its not a california burrito.
Did you move from a more densely populated area to a less densely populated area? Because if I moved from my bigger city with amazing food to a nearby smaller city, my food options would immediately suck
Listen, I know Philly is more east than west… but Ive had a Philly cheesesteak on the west coast. It was awesome… now… explain this shit being served here in Virginia, on the east coast…
That sandwich is a crime no matter what they’re trying to call it
If you can’t make it up to Philadelphia, DC has some good places for cheesesteaks. It’s been a few years, but I’ll see if I can find the name of the place I liked
The best cheesesteaks I’ve had were on the east coast, not west coast. I’ve also had shitty versions of food everywhere by places that have no idea what they’re doing, you can’t just use some garbage a specific place offers and define regional food quality. For you next fun experiment try ordering a Cuban sandwich essentially anywhere outside of FL and you’re likely to get some embarrassing mutated ham sandwich bullshit.
Dude, come north. Jersey has it all. I get cheesesteaks. I get California cheesesteaks. We benefit from proximity to New York and Philadelphia without living in either one. And great beaches.
But when I read your first post that east coast food culture sucks, it only made sense when I realized where you lived, or where you didn’t live is probably more accurate. Diversity makes for great eats and Jersey is diverse af. And diverse diverse, people from everywhere just end up here being like “This isn’t new York. Ehh, fuck it, good enough.”
Carne asada, guacomole salsa, pico de gallo, french fries, a bit of cheese. A BIT like a tiny bit.
Its not a fucking delicacy, its a drunken fools only hope at 4 AM. Its not meant for a plate. Burritos are not meant for church. Its not high fucking art. Its fucking food and its meant to be a way.
My man, my fucking man, let me show you this shit.
Restuarant 1
WITH fries. Like, as a side. Not in the burrito, neverminding everything else wrong.
Heres a different restaurant also nearby
Beans and rice? Wheres the fries??
Fucking google that shit… its like everyone out here heard that California burritos are popular and did literally NO further looking into it. Just made some shit up.
And look at this shit… you see that white “dipping sauce” there? Thats not queso…
Like its kind of bullshit to make a claim that this isn’t appropriation/ gentrification/ whatever your proffered framing is. At the same time, Lola’s 7 up in barrio Carlsbad has been around almost a hundred years. Some place in El Cajon, Escondido, spots in LA, all over southern California… its not like the people living there stopped being Mexican when the border moved. And its truly injust to “make invisible” the people who have lived in some of these areas since it wasn’t even Mexico, but Spain, and dismiss their cooking traditions because especially on the west coast of alta and baja california, the cultural centers weren’t in modern Mexico. They were LA, Santa Barbara, San Diego, San Francisco (the mission, hello).
That second California burrito is definitely a Texas burrito. We do beans and rice in ours. I’ve literally never heard of fries going in a burrito, and the concept makes me uncomfortable lmao
I mean, you implied you live in Texas, right? No one in Texas is ever gonna try to present California as a good thing…
But you owe it yourself to try it. Good California Burrito is simple. It has carne asada, french fries, pico de gallo, guacamole and sour cream in a flour tortila. That’s the minimum.
But, bump it up, substitute salsa cremosa for the sour cream and just slather it on. Or, fuck it, do both, I won’t judge if you like your burritos dripping wet. Put some cheese in there if you want, stick to cheddar/colby/jack.
No one in Texas is ever gonna try to present California as a good thing……
Why would you say that?! California is amazing in many ways. I just think french fries on a burrito sounds very strange…
Most of the time when I get a burrito here, it includes chopped smoked chicken, chorizo, or al pastor as the protein, with mexican rice, refried beans, avocado, lettuce, pico, and jack cheese. Sometimes I’ll include sour cream or salsa, usually a roja for me but tomatillo is super popular. Cholula also
Not sure what’s going on here, but we had a different name for eating cum off a bland tortilla chip when I was a youth. We also didn’t typically do it in restaurants.
yea okay sure, but imagine this. You order al pastor and they put the pineapples on the side… Like, they almost understood the assignment, they know pineapples are related to it… but, if they’re not together, you don’t call that shit al pastor
If youre visiting, get away from the tourist shops. This is true when you’re visiting anywhere. Don’t eat the food made for tourists.
Ask a local, find some place that has a dude selling burritos out of an unmarked doorway counter. If you see an old mexican lady wandering around with a ice chest behind her, shes selling homemade tamales, get that shit.
Food near tourist areas is made bland af to appeal the widest visiting audience.
You need to hit up the south. Amazing food. Sure the weather is hot af, the politics are fucking terrible, and you’ll probably get some odd looks of you’re not white.
But boy…that food. Put some pounds on you quick but you’ll leave fat and sassy
Correct, barbeque from the south, dessert from the Amish, Italian from New York and nearby Italian grandmother’s. If you get a burrito from some place that’s bad that doesn’t mean there isn’t top tier food there.
I think Virginia food just sucks dude. Clam chowder, Maryland crab cakes, Old bay on anything, Philadelphia and their pretzels and cheesesteaks, DC’s international food, Maine’s lobster, New York’s bagels, New Jersey’s wafer thin crispy pizza (yeah I think it’s better than an NYC slice), sub sandwiches in the northeast, atlantic lox, atlantic cod, new england aged cheddar… Also are we counting bourbon country to be east? Because internationally renowned whiskeys.
Also a California burrito just looks like it’s basically a Pittsburgh sandwich but in burrito form, and I’ll tell California what I told Pittsburgh, the fries are better on the side.
Tbh the food of the west coast has failed to impress me. Is it better than the Midwest? Of course (except for fried dairy), that’s not a high bar. There’s plenty good, especially in Asian and Latin cuisines, but there’s not even much weird local foods like Cincinnati chili, it’s just “ah yeah this is grown/caught nearby and so it’s fresh and popular”. It is much better as a pescatarian though.
how do they fuck that up lol the main thing that separates a cali burrito and a burrito is the french fries being IN the burrito. thats like one of the lowest hanging fruits to fuck up.
Right? And it would be one thing if just one restaurant fucked it up. You’d be like “well that restaurant is just dumb”… but its like…ALL of them. All of them fuck it up in different ways.
I grew up in Florida and moved to Oregon, the food culture was shit back home. People here will like watch you take that first bite and gauge your reaction; it kinda freaked me out at first lol. People are passionate as fuck about food here.
That being said, New Orleans still had some of the best food I’ve ever had in my life and it is on the East. Consider it the exception that proves the rule.
What part of Virginia? Hampton Roads is basically only good for seafood, but they are good at it. Northern Virginia has diverse and interesting ethnic food options, but you have to look for them. Richmond I assume is the same. Western Virginia is kind of rural sprawl but the southern food is great.
Counterpoint: fresh lobster. Ordering lobster in a restaurant is crazy expensive for no reason. Cheap and delicious during peak season (nb it may not be cheap anymore since I left the area 10 years ago)
Oh I feel this so much, grew up primarily on the west coast (with some time on the east coast and in the south) and now that I’m living on the east coast again the general quality of food here is abysmal compared to average places I could find anywhere in places like Arizona, California, or Washington.
As someone from the west coast and now living on the east coast, the number one thing I can say is… the food sucks. All of it.
East coast food culture sucks.
Its either bland or some unholy pairing of bullshit (that also sucks). And I also think they go out of their way to make things wrong.
Try to order a “California Burrito” (if you dont know, Google it, pretty common), so what does Virginia think goes in it? Chicken, steak and shrimp and beans… thats not “choice of meat”, that all 3 together. None of which is what is a California Burrito is…
Here in Viriginia they just fuck up everything. Order a Philly Cheesesteak… what do they put in it? Fucking lettuce and tomatoes… what’s not in it, fucking cheese. You get more authentic subs from big chains like Subway. Like these people dont have the internet to search.
Oh, and sit down at a Mexican restaurant, theyll bring you chips with white sauce. Everyone else is thinking “oh cool queso”. No, not queso… its mayo with some onion powder… these mf serve tortilla chips with mayonnaise…
Are you ok?
There no way they are. That sounds awful.
I had “chili” in Virginia once, and it was literally beans and tomatoes in water and salt.
I’m not gonna tell you what date this happened because I don’t want the murders traced back to me.
I don’t think anyone would move to convict
I nearly killed a local with my habanero guac.
Nearly? We expect better next time
No man.
Just grabbed some dinner with the kid at a Mexican restaurant in town… all I wanted was a burrito and they wouldn’t give it to me. Just one Cali burrito and they wouldn’t give it to me…
I’m not crazy. INSTITUTION!
You’re the one that’s crazy. INSTITUTION!
You’re driving me crazy. INSTITUTION!
I’m glad someone got that, cuz I was gonna feel real fucking old.
I mean if you know that song you’re probably getting old…
Fuck.
I’m further North and we have great Mexican. I’m not sure about a California Burrito but I’ll check it out!
Just tell them how to make it, or make sure they look it up. Don’t let “get creative” with it. If it doesnt have fries IN the burrito, its not a california burrito.
Did you move from a more densely populated area to a less densely populated area? Because if I moved from my bigger city with amazing food to a nearby smaller city, my food options would immediately suck
I’m sorry you’ve been disappointed.
This is how villains are made.
So, um, just curious, but which coast do you think those are from?
Listen, I know Philly is more east than west… but Ive had a Philly cheesesteak on the west coast. It was awesome… now… explain this shit being served here in Virginia, on the east coast…
Is that a Philly? Do you wanna claim that?
To be fair… It says it is a Philly Steak Sub… Not a Cheesesteak. As a steak sub that’s not a horrible combination.
But it is still clear what they’re trying to sell and is an abomination.
That sandwich is a crime no matter what they’re trying to call it
If you can’t make it up to Philadelphia, DC has some good places for cheesesteaks. It’s been a few years, but I’ll see if I can find the name of the place I liked
The best cheesesteaks I’ve had were on the east coast, not west coast. I’ve also had shitty versions of food everywhere by places that have no idea what they’re doing, you can’t just use some garbage a specific place offers and define regional food quality. For you next fun experiment try ordering a Cuban sandwich essentially anywhere outside of FL and you’re likely to get some embarrassing mutated ham sandwich bullshit.
Dude, come north. Jersey has it all. I get cheesesteaks. I get California cheesesteaks. We benefit from proximity to New York and Philadelphia without living in either one. And great beaches.
But when I read your first post that east coast food culture sucks, it only made sense when I realized where you lived, or where you didn’t live is probably more accurate. Diversity makes for great eats and Jersey is diverse af. And diverse diverse, people from everywhere just end up here being like “This isn’t new York. Ehh, fuck it, good enough.”
Carne asada, guacomole salsa, pico de gallo, french fries, a bit of cheese. A BIT like a tiny bit.
Its not a fucking delicacy, its a drunken fools only hope at 4 AM. Its not meant for a plate. Burritos are not meant for church. Its not high fucking art. Its fucking food and its meant to be a way.
My man, my fucking man, let me show you this shit.
Restuarant 1
WITH fries. Like, as a side. Not in the burrito, neverminding everything else wrong.
Heres a different restaurant also nearby
Beans and rice? Wheres the fries??
Fucking google that shit… its like everyone out here heard that California burritos are popular and did literally NO further looking into it. Just made some shit up.
And look at this shit… you see that white “dipping sauce” there? Thats not queso…
Your burrito is now their burrito. This is what it feels like, btw.
Beat regards,
A hispanic
Finally, I, a white man, knows what gentrification and cultural appropriation feels like. And it feels bad man.
I mean. Somewhat.
Like its kind of bullshit to make a claim that this isn’t appropriation/ gentrification/ whatever your proffered framing is. At the same time, Lola’s 7 up in barrio Carlsbad has been around almost a hundred years. Some place in El Cajon, Escondido, spots in LA, all over southern California… its not like the people living there stopped being Mexican when the border moved. And its truly injust to “make invisible” the people who have lived in some of these areas since it wasn’t even Mexico, but Spain, and dismiss their cooking traditions because especially on the west coast of alta and baja california, the cultural centers weren’t in modern Mexico. They were LA, Santa Barbara, San Diego, San Francisco (the mission, hello).
Sir, I’ve been waiting for my burrito for more than 2 hours now.
ok mijo calm down, i’ll take you to lourdes and get you some chicken soup so you feel better
ayayayay qué rico! :D
That second California burrito is definitely a Texas burrito. We do beans and rice in ours. I’ve literally never heard of fries going in a burrito, and the concept makes me uncomfortable lmao
I got no qualms with rice and beans in a burrito. Love it, good stuff… but don’t call it a fucking california burrito.
This post is the first time I’ve ever even heard that a California burrito is a specific thing
I mean, you implied you live in Texas, right? No one in Texas is ever gonna try to present California as a good thing…
But you owe it yourself to try it. Good California Burrito is simple. It has carne asada, french fries, pico de gallo, guacamole and sour cream in a flour tortila. That’s the minimum.
But, bump it up, substitute salsa cremosa for the sour cream and just slather it on. Or, fuck it, do both, I won’t judge if you like your burritos dripping wet. Put some cheese in there if you want, stick to cheddar/colby/jack.
Why would you say that?! California is amazing in many ways. I just think french fries on a burrito sounds very strange…
Most of the time when I get a burrito here, it includes chopped smoked chicken, chorizo, or al pastor as the protein, with mexican rice, refried beans, avocado, lettuce, pico, and jack cheese. Sometimes I’ll include sour cream or salsa, usually a roja for me but tomatillo is super popular. Cholula also
Damn, you weren’t even exaggerating a little.
Thanks for bringing the receipts on these atrocities, they’re both hilarious and heartbreaking 🥲
Not sure what’s going on here, but we had a different name for eating cum off a bland tortilla chip when I was a youth. We also didn’t typically do it in restaurants.
No idea how to reply to this
Dont lose eyecontact and it wont be your problem.
At least thats what I recall…
Was the different name for cum chips “Tuesdays”?
Not to be a pendejo but fries in burrito is a San Diego thing. Most everywhere else does not do that.
yea okay sure, but imagine this. You order al pastor and they put the pineapples on the side… Like, they almost understood the assignment, they know pineapples are related to it… but, if they’re not together, you don’t call that shit al pastor
Totally agreed with you there. Al Pastor is my go-to
Ok yeah even in ohio I never saw mayo for tortilla chips
As someone from the southeast I had the opposite reaction when visiting Cali. I felt like there was no soul in that food at all. More healthy tho.
Edit: Rethinking it, I’m actually sure there’s good and bad in both places.
If youre visiting, get away from the tourist shops. This is true when you’re visiting anywhere. Don’t eat the food made for tourists.
Ask a local, find some place that has a dude selling burritos out of an unmarked doorway counter. If you see an old mexican lady wandering around with a ice chest behind her, shes selling homemade tamales, get that shit.
Food near tourist areas is made bland af to appeal the widest visiting audience.
As another person from the southeast, similar is true down here and most places: a locally known and mildly sketchy situation is the best! (Usually…)
Gas station places with a packed parking lot, open church bbqs, the smoky old dark wood panel places serving the best burger you ever had.
That said, the first time I had a proper tamale when I moved to Texas, omgosh! Magic.
… How did we get here from mountains?
please keep the convo on track. we’re talking about burritos
…what are those things on the right?
That I have but one upvote to give!
Here, have some Lemmy gold 🥫 (it’s a can of beans)
We talking about burritos now.
You need to hit up the south. Amazing food. Sure the weather is hot af, the politics are fucking terrible, and you’ll probably get some odd looks of you’re not white.
But boy…that food. Put some pounds on you quick but you’ll leave fat and sassy
Correct, barbeque from the south, dessert from the Amish, Italian from New York and nearby Italian grandmother’s. If you get a burrito from some place that’s bad that doesn’t mean there isn’t top tier food there.
Your spoon may be too big though.
Yeah, only the West Coast knows how to make a Philly cheesesteak, made famous by the West Coast city of Phil Francisco.
https://lemmy.world/comment/25285180
Not Philly and not a cheesesteak.
I think Virginia food just sucks dude. Clam chowder, Maryland crab cakes, Old bay on anything, Philadelphia and their pretzels and cheesesteaks, DC’s international food, Maine’s lobster, New York’s bagels, New Jersey’s wafer thin crispy pizza (yeah I think it’s better than an NYC slice), sub sandwiches in the northeast, atlantic lox, atlantic cod, new england aged cheddar… Also are we counting bourbon country to be east? Because internationally renowned whiskeys.
Also a California burrito just looks like it’s basically a Pittsburgh sandwich but in burrito form, and I’ll tell California what I told Pittsburgh, the fries are better on the side.
Tbh the food of the west coast has failed to impress me. Is it better than the Midwest? Of course (except for fried dairy), that’s not a high bar. There’s plenty good, especially in Asian and Latin cuisines, but there’s not even much weird local foods like Cincinnati chili, it’s just “ah yeah this is grown/caught nearby and so it’s fresh and popular”. It is much better as a pescatarian though.
how do they fuck that up lol the main thing that separates a cali burrito and a burrito is the french fries being IN the burrito. thats like one of the lowest hanging fruits to fuck up.
Right? And it would be one thing if just one restaurant fucked it up. You’d be like “well that restaurant is just dumb”… but its like…ALL of them. All of them fuck it up in different ways.
Its baffling…
People are clowning on ya but I get it.
I grew up in Florida and moved to Oregon, the food culture was shit back home. People here will like watch you take that first bite and gauge your reaction; it kinda freaked me out at first lol. People are passionate as fuck about food here.
That being said, New Orleans still had some of the best food I’ve ever had in my life and it is on the East. Consider it the exception that proves the rule.
Does New Orleans really count as the east?
Counter point:
Clam chowder, poutine, maple
this is East v West. Not vs North. Canada food doesn’t count because Canadians aren’t real.
That’s east coast though. You’ll find none of that in BC (not genuine anyways)
What part of Virginia? Hampton Roads is basically only good for seafood, but they are good at it. Northern Virginia has diverse and interesting ethnic food options, but you have to look for them. Richmond I assume is the same. Western Virginia is kind of rural sprawl but the southern food is great.
Where are you ordering your food from, the dumpster?
Counterpoint: fresh lobster. Ordering lobster in a restaurant is crazy expensive for no reason. Cheap and delicious during peak season (nb it may not be cheap anymore since I left the area 10 years ago)
What part of Virginia? cuz some parts are better than others
Oh I feel this so much, grew up primarily on the west coast (with some time on the east coast and in the south) and now that I’m living on the east coast again the general quality of food here is abysmal compared to average places I could find anywhere in places like Arizona, California, or Washington.