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Wonder how that conversation came up.
“I’m sad. My parakeet died today.”
“Alright, fuck it, let’s make a deal!”
I wonder who the cello woman asked for it. I wouldn’t ask for a necklace made of parakeet bones unless I was offered one.
“Say, do you like raw honey?”
Um, Ackshually… It would be for the Biggoron’s Sword.
Giant’s Knife is the 200 Ruppee scam from Medigoron.
Giants knife was pretty good even broken tho’, that’s what they don’t want you to know
doubts
It had the same power as the Kokiri sword but with less reach
Was it that bad? I thought I remembered its power as being pretty decent but the reach being poor so you had to time/distance fairly well. Maybe depended on the version, I know I played an emulator port of it about 15 years ago, perhaps the stats were modified for that. No idea if my memory refers to emulator, og n64 version, or is purely fabricated.
Could be different per version, I know for the Nintendo Online N64 its power is 1, same as Kokiri Sword
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100% it all starts with the juggling. From there life gets weird
At the end of this trade quest they will either end up with an alternate costume that people only wear because of the quest or the most powerful weapon ever conceved. We will just have to wait and see if the earth is destroyed by the stick of unlimited damage or someone walking around some weird dead parakeet suit that offers no protection.
What is raw honey? Is it just honey? I’m not american.
Commercial honey is often pasteurized and filtered to avoid crystallization, be smoother and be pollen free. While it can effect the shelf life raw honey isn’t enormously dangerous (or illegal anywhere as far as I’m aware) like raw milk but should still be avoided by infants and immunocompromised people. I am also not american.
Isn’t honey supposed to be avoided by infants anyway?
Only unpasteurised because of the risk of juvenile botulism. Some creams that treat sore nipples are made with pasteurised honey.
Isn’t eating local honey supposed to help with allergies because it contains local pollens? So it like builds an immunity or something?
Honey can contain botulism, which is why you need to avoid it with babies and those with weak immune systems.
Would stirring it up real good help with that? Like to aerate it. I don’t think bubbles would move around very freely but mixing it for a while should eventually expose it all to air.
Edit: no, it does not, the lack of oxygen is only relevant to the production of the toxin, not the stability of it as I incorrectly believed until the following conversation happened.
Did this guy just think that air bubbles can remove botulism?
Clostridium botulinum is anaerobic bacteria. But I doubt it that mixing up the jar of honey once in a while is gonna do anything. Especially since it’s apparently the spores that chill out in honey, and only turn into bacteria when eaten.
To elaborate a bit, apparently Clostridium botulinum bacteria produce spores, which are very resistant and don’t give much of a fuck about anything — e.g. boiling at 100°C. That’s why preserved foods are boiled at pressure with higher temps, and pickled with acid and salt to kill the emerging bacteria. Toxin itself can theoretically be destroyed by prolonged boiling, but it’s highly potent in very small quantities, so it’s always recommended to just toss spoiled canned foods.
Bacteria themselves don’t live in honey because of its high sugar content, but if it has spores, those would turn into bacteria in ones’ intestines, and children’s immune system is not equipped to deal with that.
With “children” what’s the actual age that is meant in this case?
I have no certain idea, being blissfully free of the obligation of childcare, so you better clarify that at some more scientifically inclined resource. But from what I’ve briefly seen on Wikipedia, it seems that switching to solid foods changes the acidity of the stomach environment, or at least the acidity is ready when switching can be done — and the acidity is what nukes bacteria trying to pop up from the spores.
Oh I thought they meant it contained the toxin rather than the bacteria (or spores).
Though I also thought the bacteria was one of the ones that was around us all the time and it’s just anaerobic conditions like in an unsterilized sealed can that make it dangerous.
Toxin is produced by the bacteria in canned foods (typically indicated by swelling from the gases that the bacteria also emit). The toxin can’t be easily destroyed, and definitely not with enough certainty that it won’t paralyze you.
The botulinum toxin is the most potent toxin known in scientific literature, natural or synthetic, with a lethal dose of 1.3–2.1 ng/kg in humans.
That’s 1.3 nanograms, i.e. 0.0000000013 grams. Firstly, your aeration would do absolutely nothing to the toxin, secondly even if it did, consider if you’re sure enough that you didn’t miss ~0.00000013 grams of it in there.
I also thought the bacteria was one of the ones that was around us all the time
That’s true:
C. botulinum is a soil bacterium. The spores can survive in most environments and are very hard to kill. This bacteria is widely distributed in nature and can be assumed to be present on all food surfaces.
Idk how exactly anaerobic bacteria live and multiply, but at least when spores are dumped into a healthy adult stomach, the acid kills the bacteria. As evidenced by lots of people eating honey all the time.
Please tell me you don’t think storing it will get rid of botulism.
Why would I think that? There’s a whole conversation thread beside this where I go into more detail about what I thought and why. It was a misunderstanding about how the presence or thereof of oxygen played a role in the toxin’s production (it does) and stability (I thought it did but it didn’t).
That’s unfortunately untrue. Raw honey contains too little pollen to have an effect, and what little is there is rapidly broken down in the stomach.
It’s also the wrong type of pollen as the type collected by bees is from plants that utilize insects, not wind, for fertilization. It’s heavy and stickier, so isn’t airborne in substantial quantities, and thus not the type of pollens responsible for most seasonal allergies.
Lol, this was exactly my first thought as well.
While it can effect the shelf life
Archaeologists have found 3,000-year-old pots of honey that are still edible.
Well, it wasn’t in a shelf, was it? Check-mate.
Can, not will
Is cristalised honey considered unproper for consumption? Honey doesn’t go bad. That is the only food that is so. Cristalised honey is just that: honey that doesn’t have the same texture as a more recent more.
In Finland honey is never pasteurized but also not recommendes for children under 1 year old
Their GPS: https://xkcd.com/461/
Love that channel.
I would be proud to tell a story as awesome as this
Best I can do is when I went to germany to baptize my french nephew with the ceremony being in Spanish
Sounds better than sitting in a cubicle for the best hours of the day, and the best years of your life
That all depends on how many bird corpses per hour you’re earning.
Wow, what a quaint little folk-tale. I wonder how this will…
When did my life get this weird?
Oh.
Oh shit, someone should let this person know that a lot of these don’t end well.
Yeah those things didn’t happen
While I agree this is probably just a made up funny joke, if you you’ve ever actually lived in a gift/barter community, it’s pretty much this. Hung out pretty much exclusively with anarchist and various left-communists for years, and this was my life. You do things for folks, they do things for you, and along the way you end up with stuff like a shit ton of honey, and you end up giving that honey out in exchange for something else, and you end up meeting someone with a weird skill, and it all just spirals into this weird and glorious community.
The difference is that in real life, you’re not saying “I’ll give you this honey for a bird corpse” you say “hey, man, can I have your bird corpse, I know a girl who loves macabre art, and it would be a really cool way to honor your beloved pet,” and then you either give them honey as a thank you, or just later on when it comes up that they want some honey, you give them some because you happen to have some.
I once had a friend who straight up gave this guy his Prius, that same dude ended up giving a mutual friend a place to stay for over a year. Original Prius owner never got anything directly for the Prius, but he was within the little gift economy, and ended up receiving lots of things and services from various members over the years. I doubt he feels like he was not repaid for it.
It’s a pretty great way to live. It’s a shame we all could never work out a way to get land and built the cohousing community we dreamt of.
left-communists
Is there such a thing as right-communists?
Also I’m guessing your friend didn’t originally acquire the Prius by bringing honey to the Toyota dealership. That’s where this kind of thing breaks down.
Left-communism refers to philosophies such an anarchism, council communism, platformism, and other left wing thoughts that do not advocate for an all encompassing and powerful worker’s state, and instead believe in achieving a communist system (stateless, classless, moneyless) through means of democracy, consensus, councils, or other means that put the actual people impacted by a decision in charge, or at least in the conversation, of making the decision.
And of course not. Because we do not live in a society where that happens. The topic is not “does gift economy work” or “do we live in a gift economy.” The topic was explaining a micro-economy that existed around mutual aid and gift economics.
Strasserists?
But yeah I think it was Lenin who wrote “Left Communism, an Infantile Disorder”
It’s not lol. The issue isn’t that barter centric systems fall apart with complex products/services. The blame as always rest with mega corps, investors, and the most insatiably greedy cunts that we always hand power and leniency to.
Anarchist systems fall apart at scale. Because they rely on social reputation to keep people well behaved. And social reputation doesn’t work if you want factories and electronics and other things that require the collaboration of tens of thousands of workers around the globe.
Tankies?
I once heard of something called anarcho-monarchism, so nothing would surprise me at this point.
They would just overcharge for the oil change anyway and claim the $8 cabin air filter needs changing for $120.
This ̶g̶u̶y̶ person lives in Fallen London.
Wonder what the main quest is then
The Giant’s knife was the garbage that was easy to acquire. You’re thinking of the Biggoron’s Sword, obviously
One Small Favor
I’m guessing that’s what you’re referencing.
There was a dude in the Lego community on Lugnet at the time that took the idea and did a similar thing trading up from a 1x1 red stud to a Technic bulldozer that was one of the most expensive sets at the time.
Nope, a quest in popular mmo Runescape. It makes the player fetch items which require other items repeatedly and then you work your way backwards, usually takes between 2 and 6 hours depending on what systems if transport the player has unlocked.
Gameplay!
