Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.
Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion
Edit2: IP= intellectal property
Edit3: sort by controversal
The free movement of people is a human right!
Note that capital is free to go whatever it wants to.
The stock market should be illegal in all countries. Its basically a legalized gambling ponzii scheme.
Retirement also shouldn’t be tied to this type of system.
Absolute free speech is overrated. You shouldn’t be able to just lie out your ass and call it news.
The fact that the only people who had any claim against Fox for telling the Big Lie was the fucking voting machine company over lost profits tells you everything you need to know about our country
While I’m tempted to agree, the big problem here is that if the government can decide that some speech is illegal, they can use that to silence people they don’t like.
Obviously the system we’ve got now in the US isn’t working, but we need to tread carefully when giving the government power to decide what is or isn’t the “right beliefs”.
Being “proud” of your acheivements is fine.
Being “proud” of your country or your state or your football team that you’re not a member of,or your ethnicity is douchebaggery.
having kids is a right that should be earned. full assessment and parenthood training course required.
People will say they hate eugenics but then just argue for the same concept under a different term. Anyone who agrees with this should read Eugenics and Other Evils by G.K. Chesterton, where he criticizes and refutes the idea of giving the state authority of who can have kids when.
congrats you just discovered progressive eugenics
Open borders. I strongly believe in open borders as a moral imperative. Human beings have been migrating for survival, resources, and exploration for over 20,000 years. The concept of nation-states imposing constraints on movement is a modern invention that doesn’t align with the inherent human need for freedom of mobility. People in the southwestern states of the US with Mexican roots will tell you “We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us.”
I thought of a few stupid things, but everyone talking about kids made me think of this one.
I am strongly against Trickle down suffering.
“I put up with this terrible thing when I was your age, and even though we could stop it from happening to anyone, it’s important that we make YOU suffer through it too.”
Hazing, bullying, unfair labor laws, predatory banking and more. It’s really just the “socially acceptable” cycle of abuse.
I agree, and I take it this far: “I worked hard and paid for my house, why should some lazy loafer get housing for free? I paid 24,000$ in tuition, why should kids get free college?” I think that, at some point, one guy has to be the first guy to benefit from progress, and all the people who didn’t benefit just have to suck it up. I would 100% pay a much higher tax rate if it meant that homelessness was gone, hunger was gone, kids got free education… I’m Canadian, so I don’t need to say this about health care. Yeah, I paid an awful lot of mortgage, but if someone else gets a free house? Good!
Trickle down suffering is a great term for it, I’m going to use that for future use.
- The illusion that we are “rational” has done more damage than good, and if we were to just embrace that emotions are not just real, but a stronger influence on people’s behaviour (and therefore reality) than any facts, we might start getting somewhere as a species.
I have to agree IP is against nature but there’s not really any other way to route data over a network.
Fuck it, UDP all the way. Who cares if the data actually arrives?
Killing yourself is ok. You don’t know what it’s like to be them and be in their head.
I’ll never do it. Even in darkest depths, but respect anyone’s right to say peace out.
Death penalty is wrong. Also vengeance prison is wrong, VERY unpopular opinions. I can’t tell you how many people will full on yell at you if you say this in public. I think rehab prison is what should happen for any prisoner that isn’t in for murder one or rape, domestic abuse. Financial crimes? House arrest, monitored assets, no access to exploitable systems. Property crime? Make sure they have a legitimate job, parole, house arrest if serious, garnished wages. We could have the vast majority of prisoners on parole or house arrest and in treatment, or jobs programs and out prison population would be at a normal percentage compared to the rest of the world.
I’ll just keep being a nuisance here and say it. I genuinely do like this instance but I can’t make sense of the infatuation for the AI here when isn’t this part of the problem? AI “art” generators are fundamentally wrong and harmful to the artistic community. Artists are part of the nerd crowd too. We studied like crazy to hone our craft. There are a few traumatic historic events that the use of AI art theft machines harken back to. In more recent history, fascist regimes have tried to erase art altogether, or covet it for themselves. The same can be said for colonists, and it was to our chagrin a casually accepted part of Western culture to incorporate all sorts of bastardized appropriations of beautiful things they’d seen that didn’t belong to them. It’s just something to think about.
At the end of the day, people are thoughtlessly using a machine that takes the hard work of countless artists (of all different walks of life, different classes, backgrounds, mediums) to spit out uncanny, empty slop.
I’ll keep saying it. And it may take years to undo this shit if ever. That’s fine.
Okay, a pretty decent amount of people feel similarly as I do on this topic, but here I just feel like an outlier at times due to the number of pro-AI slop communities. Then again, I also notice that only a handful of the same people run those communities and contribute to them. I guess it’s because we’re a smaller community and I’m also a negative Nancy, so I tend to notice those glaring issues more here. I think it’s important to get this message across on here, because why do we want to emulate even one ounce of Musk’s energy here? Fuck that. Reddit already has their Midjourney sh-stuff. And they are not like us. So, we should strive to be better than Reddit.
I kinda feel like all I hear is anti AI talk. Meanwhile I’m in the camp of don’t demonize tools, demonize what people do with the tools that’s damaging.
As for art, I don’t know how to ascribe value to art. The Mona Lisa exists. As do copies of it that are worthless. At what point will the original have no value by virtue of the quality of the copies? Will a molecularly identical copy made with a Star Trek replicator make the original worthless? Or will it always be valued as the original?
don’t demonize tools,
if the tool builders stole your work to create them, never compensated the creators, didn’t even ask them - I suspect you’d feel differently. it’s gross and people are like “well, it’s just artists what do we need them for?”
copying isn’t stealing, and modeling isn’t even copying.
the greatest threat an artist faces isn’t that someone might copy their work, but that no one will want to
I get it, you’ll care when they get around to stealing your work.
copying isn’t stealing.
oh, so you copied all the answers on your exams?
pfft. quit it kiddo, you’re not equipped for this.
… He’s not equipped? Your metaphor was nonsensical. Let’s say he did copy his exam answers. Who lost their answers as a result?
Hence copying is not stealing.
Additionally, who was harmed by the copying in your example, and how?
Everything is fair in fiction. No matter how sensitive or dark a topic is, fictional settings are the only place where anything should be allowed.
This does not mean that attacking/defaming people is ok, just that “I don’t like this” or “this is insensitive” should never be brought up against the existence of a work of fiction.
I’m not sure if “most” people would disagree with that, but there are too many that believe that fiction should be ruled by (subjective) morale and laws, while I believe it should be the place where anything goes.
This does not mean that attacking/defaming people is ok, just that “I don’t like this” or “this is insensitive” should never be brought up against the existence of a work of fiction.
Should any critiques be levelled at fictional works, then? If a work has a character that’s an insensitive racial stereotype, am I allowed to criticize the character, not for being an offensive stereotype, but for being one-dimensional and poorly written? If so, why, exactly?
You’re allowed to criticize anything. The point is that some people are actively looking to forbid the existence of this or that on their personal whim.
The same way you’re free to ignore a piece of work you don’t care about, any author is free to ignore criticism of it. I’m just advocating not forbidding imaginary things, which is unfortunately a thing.
Well, I got it right here in the name.
That cats should remain indoors. Pet cats kill approximately 2.4 billion birds in the US alone, not to mention all the other animals that they also kill. I love cats as much as the next guy but keep them indoors for the love of nature
depends on your country. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7909512/
edit: sorry was talking with someone and realized that this isn’t as clear as it should be. this isn’t a ‘moral that most don’t agree with’ in all countries. like the US.
That cats should remain indoors.
In my experience, humans do tend to prefer this policy but cats do not. Consequently, outdoor cats tend to be cats that are particularly good at getting outside in defiance of their owners’ interests - either by physical escape or social manipulation.
Are the cats wanting to be outside, or are they just wanting to be away from you?
Cause I’ve never had a cat that wanted to be outside. Sit in a window and watch the world, yes, but as soon as you give them the ability they ran and hid.
Are the cats wanting to be outside, or are they just wanting to be away from you?
In my experience, they want to go outside early in the morning and kill something (bugs are popular - my cat’s never been big on tree climbing or bird killing), bring it back inside and meow until I acknowledge their triumph and give it a head-scritch. Then they want to bask in a sunbeam in my study while I work, attack my computer cord, and meow for dinner when it gets late in the day. Round out the evening curled up on my lap watching a movie. Sleep at the foot of the bed. Wake up and repeat.
Cause I’ve never had a cat that wanted to be outside.
Omg, he’ll meow at the door for an hour straight if I don’t let him out. Then he’ll stick his head outside for, like, ten second and demand to be let back in again. Then go back to the door and ask to be let out again. So I typically just leave the door cracked, when the weather is nice, and save everyone some drama.
I have a take on this that I think no one will have fun with:
In my opinion there is no moral way to keep a cat as a pet.
Allowing cats to roam as they desire results in the aforementioned ecological damage. The opposite - keeping cats locked in a few thousand feet at best for twenty-odd years of life - is cruel.
As someone who was raised in the woods with outdoor cats and couldn’t imagine keeping them inside - even though we lost two as I grew up - it’s a circle I just can’t square. So I figure that if and when I get cats, I’ll dodge the question and adopt some older cats who were already raised inside and couldn’t be trusted to go outside safely anyway.
Plus, they are %99 less likely to get hit by a car or eaten by a coyote.
Definitely!
also they just live longer.
outdoor cats average…what…5 years? Indoor cats can get to 20. a lucky few even more.
Counterpoint: leash laws for cats on non-private property. You can and should be able to take your cat for a walk, but you definitely shouldn’t let those little murder machines out on their own.
I wouldnt say its a counter point. A cat on a leash is definitely fine. Its letting the cats roam freely that is the problem
