• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    Sorry, why is it such a hardship for you if someone says “don’t call me he, please, call me grit?” What does it matter if it sounds funny or weird? Lots of things in English sound funny or weird. We drive on a parkway and park on a driveway.

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      Similarly is it that big of a hardship that someone accidentally misgenders you? Because if that is a prolem in your life I am super envious of your life. It sounds amazing. Please trade lives with me so that I can have your tiny ridiculous problems.

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        What makes you think people care when they are accidentally misgendered? It’s not the accidental misgendering that is the problem.

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          Well this tweet is mocking the hardship of using different pronouns. It is specifically critisizing the notion that this let’s be real malicious syntax causes ‘hardship’ for someone, writing off the 8 billion people who’s language isn’t native english as morons with a tiny ridiculous problem. IT SPECIFICALLY DOES NOT MENTION INTENTION, it frames not calling someone by their correct pronoun for WHATEVER reason as a person who is either mentally incapable, privilaged, or a whining bitch.

          It mentions no conditions, no clarification, it writes off everyone who fails to comply, as people WHO HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN.

          So does your comment. "Sorry, why is it such a hardship for you if someone says “don’t call me he, please, call me grit?” - Having grand expectations of MY compliance, yet not applying the same standards for yourself. Why is it such a hardship? What POSSIBLE hardship can you experience conforming to me?

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            Wow. You really don’t understand what he’s saying.

            Also, why on Earth would he be talking about non-native English speakers if he’s an American writer who writes novels in English for English-speakers? Does he really need to add “except for all of you who don’t speak English” or does everyone (except you apparently) realize that without him having to add that bit of unnecessary clarification?

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              Yes? Because english is the global language? It does not belong to English speaking countries anymore? You lost that with forced colonization? There is no countries on the internet? It is funny how when it comes to MY concerns, and me being offended and being talked down to, the clarification is suddenly ‘uneccesary’, and ‘realised by everyone’.

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                Again, it’s very apparent that everyone else here, including non-native English speakers, understood what he was talking about but you.

                John Green is not under an obligation to tailor his statements to you personally.

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                  “John Green is not under an obligation to tailor his statements to you personally.” Nor am I.

                  Also it is really funny, how you have no issue generalising 8 BILLION people, and what they understand and how they feel.

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      You’re right, but you can never be left…darn that’s even wrong but not even right. You could say we’re uneven right 👍. Like the word fuck. I can fuck up but haven’t ever fucked down! But there are many ways to fuck up and non of those ways is doggy style. You can fuck someone up, but you can’t fuck them up doggy style. You can only fuck them doggy style. The only way to fuck is up, but there are a huge number of ways to fuck. Like you can’t fuck forward, but you can fuck missionary. But although you can run forward towards a goal, you can never run missionary towards a goal. Two guys can’t fuck scissor style, they can get into that position but it would be painful. Now you can back up and back down, but you can’t back left or right. You can back up a little to the left but your can’t fuck up a little to the left. English is so dumb!

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        It’s clear that you’re not trying to make a point here.

        You didn’t comment here to discuss but just to throw your hate for pronouns onto other people

        Ask yourself if you actually want to create positive change. You clearly have an opinion on the matter. Regardless of your opinion being reasonable or not, you already ruined your chance to get your point across by being a total ass

        You will never convince anyone by being an asshole. So don’t be one.

        And if you just want to express your frustrations then go to your therapist.

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        I don’t know why I’m bothering typing this, but…

        You do realize that language evolves and changes, what sounds odd to us may not in 20 years and what sounds normal now may have sounded odd 20 years ago.

        Yes there are some rules, but also those rules are subject to change too.

        Saying stuff like this 40 years ago would sound absurd: Google it, search it up, tweet it, download it, upload it, post it.

        Language changes, thou cannest changeth with it or thee will eventually and indubitably sound like a right silly nincompoop, knave!

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          I think my point here is that I certainly didn’t get to live in a trans open world. The only openly gay people in my class in jr high and highschool were shun to a corner. They were outcasts. Imagine learning their pronouns… There was no such thing back in the 90’s.

          Now you can’t expect people of my age to not find the language strange at all. But my point should be pretty clear, the way to start is through youth. They and not us are the ones that change language. Once they reach their 40’s and 50’s there will be a new wave that will bring more changes with them. So if you don’t catch the waves such as the COVID baby boom, you miss a generation. School is where new language trends will be set.