• Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world
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    Maybe, even if they hate him. Know he is bad. The one takeway is that they liked Kamala even less. It is combination of desperation and despise. If the Dems don’t learn from this, they will repeat the same mistakes over and over. Pick someone likeable

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      No matter who Democrats pick they will always be painted as unlikeable, losers, and evil by Republicans. If you think picking a “likeable” candidate is the trick then you too have fallen for the endless Republican framing trap.

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        Rrrrrriiiiiigggghhhhhtttt. There’s nothing wrong with Democrats, and if you think otherwise, then you’ve bought into Republican propaganda.

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          I didn’t say that, but ya you seem to have fallen for Republican propaganda.

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        She didn’t lose because she’s a woman. She lost because she’s an empty suit neoliberal promising more of the same to a nation desperate for change as the majority of us are one paycheck away from disaster.

        And before you have the knee jerk liberal response of bUt TrUmP iS wOrSe you’re missing the point. This election - and elections around the world this year - are referendums on the current establishment across parties and ideologies.

        Either learn that neoliberalism is a losing ideology and embrace leftist positions or lose to fascists over and over again.

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          I’ve said it before and I truly believe this, unfortunately sometime very soon lots of us are going to be LONGING for the days when we were able to live paycheck to paycheck.

          I’ll send you my left foot if regular folks benefit instead of the 1% during this presidency.

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            I’m not saying I agree with trump voters. But democrats are completely incapable of self reflection and deserve losing this election as hard as they did after gaslighting the public about inflation and not doing a single fucking thing to stop these fascists. They had FOUR FUCKING YEARS to go after trump for J6 which is arguably the strongest case against him and they didn’t.

            They had decades to make roe v Wade law. They didn’t. They lose elections on purpose and then fundraise off the loss. They block progressives and leftists and protect their corporate donors over making any kind of popularly supported change. When did the senate parliamentarian ever matter until it came time to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour? I’ve paid close attention to politics since 9/11 and I never heard of them until then.

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              The thing is that you’re paying waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more attention to politics than the average joe six pack voter. The imagined reasons you have for why they voted the way they did are just that.

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                Average joe six pack knows they’re one missed paycheck away from disaster and voting accordingly. After all, biden/Harris said the economy has never been better!

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                  The average joe six pack doesn’t even know they’re one missed paycheck away from disaster and they’re out there looking at new F-150s hoping to get an approval. 🤞

                  Also, I watched a lot of Harris interviews and crap, and she would always start her statement with “I know a lot of people aren’t feeling the progress we’ve made on the economy and that’s why we want to X”, but that was too nuanced for donkey brains.

                  She should’ve came out with a series of ads saying things like “I am running for president, the previous president is Joe Biden who stepped aside and will not be on this year’s ballot” and then talked about basic governmental structures in the country…preferably over a popular song.

                  Everything I’ve read from the people on this site is analysis that would apply if the electorate wasn’t full of complete idiots. However, it is.

                  Trump communicates on their level because he repeats obvious things over and over again and he is donkey brained just like them…that’s part of the reason why he’s their hero.

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                    You’re not wrong. Problem is the dems don’t care, they’re just gonna fundraise off this. It’s hard to take their “he’s the next hitler!!!” bleating seriously when they’re just gonna hand over power like it’s not a real threat. Weimar Republic vibes.

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                    If the voters are that stupid, then it should’ve been easy for Harris to get elected. Democratic politicians must be even stupider than the average voter is.

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      Shoulda ran Walz as prez from the get-go. Dude ticks all the masculinity boxes the right loves while being a real human being.

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        That was my first thought when I heard Walz speak: “Wow! Can this guy be president instead?”

        Now he has no hope of becoming president, because he’s connected to a historically losing campaign. The Democrats would never nominate him now.