• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The fact that they insist it isn’t sexual, when it clearly is at least for many. It gives me the same “don’t involve me in your kinks” feeling like if I saw a dominatrix and her sub licking her heels in a McDonalds

    i think this whole dialogue is just, fucking stupid to be honest. If we want to complain about porn, and NSFW material, we should be banishing the entire fucking human race to death instantly because the porn industry is a massive mover of money.

    The fandom with the biggest sex positive scene is literally humanity. Who gives a shit what furries do. They just happen to very sex positive and open about things, as some people do. It’s both hyper sexualized and extremely wholesome. It’s just the duality between those things that confuses people.

    Funny example of this, on the image board e621, you aren’t allowed to leave weird sexualized comments. You get banned for that. But you can also post the most heinous NSFW material ever there as well assuming it abides by the rules (which is basically just “drawn furry art”)

    It seems to have some overlap with the contingent of online people that like to call themselves wolfkin and stuff, like vulpine.club or whatever that masto instance was. I’m not sure how much overlap, but I have seen some creepy shit posted from the individuals there, and the complete lack of reality those people live in is maybe not bad but it is startling and makes me uncomfortable. Again, I agree with their right to do it, but I blocked the instance, ykwim.

    this one is interesting, but from my experience and understanding, otherkins are completely different and irrelevant to furries, i would probably argue that there is an expected negative overlap. TBF there is probably some overlap, but it’s probably similar to overlap between for example, car guys and minecraft players. Rather than like, car guys and professional racers.

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      No see again, where porn is acceptable is at someone’s house, not in public. The people on the train do not need to see you watching porn whether you’re cranking it or not, and whether it’s furry porn or not. Again if I go to a furry porn website (or even if I scroll by a thumbnail on a regular porn site) I’m not gonna be saying “oh shit what are furries doing here,” I’m saying if I see furries at like, the park, or the train, or Best Buy or some shit, then it’s a problem. I can just not go to furry cons or sites and block the masto instances and stuff, that’s not a big deal. And maybe I should note I’m talking about them being like suited up in public, not just out in regular clothes. I think that should be obvious based on what I’ve said (and because how would I know without the suit) but it may be worth noting.

      It really feels like some people replying stopped reading before “in a McDonalds.” At least that’s better than the people trying to justify doing their kinks in public, the fact that a bunch of people in full costume can’t respect consent as much as the BDSM community can isn’t really comforting.

      Interesting to note about the possible overlap or lack thereof, and possible correlation but not causation, thanks for your insight on that!

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        No see again, where porn is acceptable is at someone’s house, not in public. The people on the train do not need to see you watching porn whether you’re cranking it or not, and whether it’s furry porn or not.

        nobody is arguing for this? Public obscenity laws exist for a reason.

        are you comparing fur suits to literal porn? If so, then i may argue we ban all public display of sports attire because i find it distinctly related to sex.

        If you see a furry in a mcdonalds, they’re probably buying food because their hungry lmao. It’s not like it’s some weird BDSM psyop.

        Interesting to note about the possible overlap or lack thereof, and possible correlation but not causation, thanks for your insight on that!

        that’s what im here for, np

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          I am relating fursuits to BDSM leather, gimp suits, pup play gear, latex, etc, yes. Sports attire clearly doesn’t fit this category, save maybe the cheerleaders of course I suppose. I was talking about fursuits in public from the get go, in the quote you quoted me in fact. You brought up porn, that’s why I responded about porn in public. Seems maybe you’re one of those people who don’t bother reading what they’re responding to?

          How eat with suit on? Why not just not wear the suit in public? At least the gimp while being similarly inappropriate in public despite your protests can unzip the mouth, that just seems like added difficulty to me.

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            Fursuits are not revealing or sexy and the people in them are not putting them on only in cases they want to have sex. It’s not connected like that.

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            that’s like relating halloween costumes to BDSM gear. Or like i said, sports jerseys.

            That was literally the point lmao.

            You brought up porn

            yes. for an irrelevant reason

            that’s why I responded about porn in public.

            fursuits are not porn, public indecency is not porn, and fursuits are not public indecency.

            How eat with suit on?

            take off the head.

            Why not just not wear the suit in public?

            they don’t? Like most of the time? Whenever you see a furry in public chances are, there’s a fur con, if not, they’re probably not causing problems.

            At least the gimp while being similarly inappropriate in public despite your protests can unzip the mouth, that just seems like added difficulty to me.

            you have to be trolling