• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    The fact that they insist it isn’t sexual, when it clearly is at least for many. It gives me the same “don’t involve me in your kinks” feeling like if I saw a dominatrix and her sub licking her heels in a McDonalds, and the fact that for many it is sexual means that the ones that are “just for fun” get caught in that crossfire and make me feel that same gross feeling. Again not kink shaming, just non consensually involving the public in your kinks shaming, as consent is important.

    Okay, but when do you see people in fursuits just walking around in public? I can’t think of a time. I don’t think they are involving people in their kinks. Not most of the time anyway.

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      I mean it only happened once so far, but it was still weird, and it seems to have happened to others as well since I’ve heard others talk about running into furries in public. Just because it hasn’t happened to you doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened to anyone y’know?

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        But how does this compare to “I don’t care what they do in their own bedroom, but I don’t want to see two men holding hands or kissing in public?” Because it really doesn’t feel much different to me. Was the person you saw simulating sex at the time or just wearing a fursuit?

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          They were doing that “cute anime girl” type thing, idk, so maybe? Frankly, to refer back to my dominatrix example, I don’t care if say this guy that comes up when you search “guy licks boot on subway” insists it’s not sexual it’s just because he has an oral fixation and I’m just sexualizing it, the people who do it sexual reasons have ruined it for him and it now carries connotations of a sexual nature. So a furry doing odd egirl type shit in public, whether they think it’s sexual or not, comes off as such and gives me the creeps. It is what it is.

          Gay people can also go way too far with sexual shit in public, there’s actually a huge debate within the community about whether or not kink should be at pride events for example, and I’d say wearing a whole furry suit is more akin to wearing leather or latex BDSM gear than “holding hands or kissing,” and your example is frankly disingenuous.

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            Sorry… you’re comparing someone doing a “cute anime girl” thing in a fursuit with licking boots on a subway?

            That’s ludicrous.

            Gay people can also go way too far with sexual shit in public

            You have an unnecessary word at the beginning of that sentence which shows your biases.

            Also, if someone wants to walk around in dominatrix gear- as long as they aren’t violating any local nudity laws, why do you give a shit?

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              This. People should be allowed to wear what they want. Even revealing things. It’s not a crime to have a sexy/ugly/fat/average body. People should learn to ignore what people look like and focus more on their behaviour and values. Focusing on the attire makes people freak out because DIFFRENT!

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                Yeah, I really don’t get it. It hurts no one for those people to just exist in public spaces. I’m only surprised the “what about the children?!?” card wasn’t played.

                If people want to go out in public like this, I don’t see the problem. I probably won’t stand there watching them, but it’s not like I stand there watching people in general.

                They’re not spreading any body fluids around, everyone is consenting, I’m just not seeing the deal here.

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              It’s not unnecessary, you brought it up! Why do you specify gay people kissing or holding hands then in your previous comment? Unnecessary to you right back then. So much “no u.” You can’t direct a conversation towards gay people just to claim that the guy replying is unnecessarily talking about gay people, that one is on you.

              But yes, straight people, like MY ORIGINAL DOMINATRIX/SUB EXAMPLE, and the video I sent of the man licking a woman’s boot, can also do creepy stuff. Try and keep up. Jfc, you have your sights set on trying to pin me as a homophobe so bad you can’t see that I’ve been the one talking about straight people doing the creepy shit all along while you brought up the gay angle.

              And because involving people in your kinks against their will is creepy whether your bits are showing or not, exhibit A: man licks boot on subway. Just do that shit in private (or private enough public locations, like a bar, con, club, etc). There’s places for that, the subway, park, store, whatever, ain’t it.

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                Why do you specify gay people kissing or holding hands then in your previous comment?

                Why do you think I specified it? To show the bigotry you aren’t aware you have.

                you have your sights set on trying to pin me as a homophobe so bad you can’t see that I’ve been the one talking about straight people doing the creepy shit all along while you brought up the gay angle.

                No, I am showing how you are being the same as homophobic bigots with people who have other ideas of what attracts them. If you said something racist about Asian people and I compared you to someone who said something racist about Native Americans, that would be an apt comparison.

                And because involving people in your kinks against their will

                Do you not have a neck? Do you not have eyelids? No one is forcing you to look at someone in dominatrix gear if they’re out in public. This is ridiculous prudishness.

                exhibit A: man licks boot on subway. Just do that shit in private (or private enough public locations, like a bar, con, club, etc). There’s places for that, the subway, park, store, whatever, ain’t it.

                Why? Because you don’t like to look at it?

                I don’t like to look at sweaty, shirtless middle-aged guys walking around when it’s too hot. It disgusts me when I see it. Should my disgust be catered to or should I just put on my big boy pants and cope?

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                  Exactly, trying to paint me as a homophobe, by pretending people wearing fursuits is the same as homosexual people “kissing and holding hands” rather than closer to wearing leather or latex. Last I checked homosexuality isn’t a fucking costume but by all means imply it, that’s your bigotry you aren’t aware you have. Again that’s on you.

                  This is a farce lmao, furry != gay, you’re operating under a false equivalency, gay is not a fetish and you equating the two is frankly WILD.

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                    Exactly, trying to paint me as a homophobe,

                    Lie. I explained what I was doing.

                    by pretending people wearing fursuits is the same as homosexual people “kissing and holding hands”

                    Because it is no different. It doesn’t hurt you either way.

                    rather than closer to wearing leather or latex.

                    Again, other than you personally finding it disgusting, what is wrong with it? Do you think society should cater to your whims?