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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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Meet the AI vegans | Arwa Mahdawi
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They are choosing to abstain from using artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons. Maybe they have a point, writes Guardian columnist Arwa Mahdawi
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      Carnivores: vegetable vegans.

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        And jus lik that we come full circle 😂

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        This works so well specially for those people that refuse to touch anything “not cooked” in their plate or that is green.

    • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.world
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      • Working class: retirement vegan
      • American: healthcare vegan
      • German: humour vegan

      My god, it’s unstoppable

      • zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world
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        • Republican: democracy vegan, justice vegan, decency vegan, consent vegan
        • db2@lemmy.world
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          Not trafficking children vegan

          • deathbird@mander.xyz
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            Age of majority vegan

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        On this blessed day, we are all truly vegans.

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        I love your profile image. I should reread Rice Boy.

        • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.world
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          High five, fuck yes. Cool person detected. I think you’re the first one to spot it, too.

          I wish I had that series in print. Might be time to look into that

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            Ooh, print would be amazing. $30 for the softcover, wonder about shipping though…
            I have to believe you’re underestimating how recognizable TOE is.

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              It’s a hard one to gauge for me. I’m pretty sure I found it via stumbleupon back when that was really great. I read the whole thing in close to one go, and I never hear anyone else talk about it.

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                stumbleupon, wow… That takes me back.

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      • Amish: techno vegans
      • Mennonite: techno vegetarians
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        I interpreted that as techno, as in the genre, for too long.

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      Incels: sexual vegans

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        I keep trying to eat meat but it just won’t cooperate!

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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

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      It’s like taking the last syllable of the name of the hotel and tacking it onto every scandal, because you didn’t understand that it’s part of the name of a hotel, and not some sort of indicator of scandal.

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        • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
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          Please see yourself out

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        Freeze! Vegan police!

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          Chicken’s not vegan?

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      • Cyclists: transport vegans
      • Hippies: war vegans
      • Vegans: food vegans
      • Lemmy users: social media vegans
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      You’re hereby invited to /c/vegan, as you appear to be a Northern Hemisphere vegan.

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      netaphor vegan

      Found an autocorrect vegan!

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    • Korne127@lemmy.world
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      I mean “Straight edgers” is on the same level already

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      Recycling: waste vegans.

      The Germans are probably upset with this comparison

      What for a nonsense. Do these other countries not sort their waste or what? Do they not know about efficiency? Next thing you’re going to tell me they don’t sort their white, green and brown glass separately.

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    “AI vegans”

    ffs, just publish an article with a single clownemoji for the same effect.

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      The big corporations desperately want AI to be popular because they’ve thrown literally insane amounts of money at it and still don’t know how to monetize it.

      There’s going to be a huge push to make it seem like everyone loves it and it’s weird not to use it constantly

      It’s going to go horribly and come off like that “fellow kids” meme, exactly like this headline

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        I’m already seeing a surge of AI simp trolls on Lemmy in the last few days.

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          Ironically enough they’re the same trolls as the vegan drama.

          They don’t care about the topic, they just want to troll and they’ve been up/device banned from all the major social media, so they’ll always be here

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        MBA dweebs running VC firms wanna desperately replace people with AI for short term profits.

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          This is it.

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        still don’t know how to monetize it.

        They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023. There’s also huge R&D potential in fields like genetic research and medicine.

        Profitability is another question though. Likely we’re waiting for advances in cold fusion or late stage renewable development for energy costs to go down enough.

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          They do know how to monetize it. API access generated $1Billion in 2023.

          And all that $1B revenue cost them was a $5B loss! https://www.wheresyoured.at/howmuchmoney/

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            Yes my second paragraph alleged as much. Not that you read that far of course.

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              Ironically he could have asked AI to summarize it.

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                Thank you.

                As much as I hate AI… I think I hate the people who hate AI more lol

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          AI having to wait on cold fusion for profitability is one of the funnier concepts I’ve heard today, thank you.

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            It’s being used to research fusion too

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              I know, I regularly sleep with one of the researchers involved with several similar pojects (aren’t I cool). Fascinating stuff though! Very much not comparable to commercial LLMs, though.

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          People pay for the “premium” because they believe the makers who said it can increase their profitability and make them money.

          My employer keeps trying to shove it down our throats too.

          They’re desperate to find anyway to make it reduce work, be cause they’ve already paid for it under the assumption it would let them cut staffing

          Now they’re finding out they got swindled, do you think they’ll re-up on AI?

          The AI companies offloaded how to monetize it to consumers and scared them into being left behind unless they discovered how to use it.

          It’s a short term bubble.

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        A good example were those Apple AI ads. So cringe. Google’s ads aren’t much better but at least Gemini works.

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        AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value. I think you’re just talking specifically about ChatGPT and consumer-facing LLMs.

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          AI in this form has been used for like 15 years, to generate trillions of dollars worth of value

          Suuuuuuuuuuure it has…

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            He’s probablly talking about shareholder “value”, AKA inflated stock prices, rather than actual value.

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            lol ok. I’ve literally done it. Please, go enlighten yourself on google.

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              “Enlighten yourself” you mean make your argument for you?

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                You do you bb. Keep believing whatever makes you feel best.

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                  Sounds kinda like you’ve got nothing and you know it

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    It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading “Meet the AI vegans.”

    Whole new level.

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      That’s because the author seems to be a journalism vegan, writing vegan and self-awareness vegan.

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      Its so wacky out there. When I read something like this I’m sure its The Onion. And its not. Then I read a headline about US politics and its totally believable , alas its The Onion.

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      I refuse to believe this title is anything other than engagement-bait, personally.

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      Seems to me you‘re a BS vegan.

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      Yeah, pretty disappointing to see from the Guardian.

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      You’d be surprised how much more serene your headspace can become if you stop expecting anything beyond stupidity, incompetence and negligence as the default human behavior.

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    This is such a stupid name for this.

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    Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That’s not how any of this works.

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      I’m sex vegan. Cry about it virgins

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      It’s like how they put the word gate after something to say that it is a scandal involving the former word.

      Somesort of political scandal involving road maintenance? Oh yes well that’s roadgate then. Even though the Watergate scandal was in fact it scandal in the watergate hotel, rather than a scandal about water.

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      Awe so the article author has a vendetta against vegans got it.

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      But it makes people come off as extremely annoying. So that’s working.

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    Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.

    They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it’s practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.

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      There’s been recent pushes in that regard, investment in AI shit has been enormous but the financial payoff for anyone besides hardware manufacturers remains nonexistent. So investors and corporations have recently redoubled their efforts into trying to get everyone to use it in the hopes that this somehow will make them profitable.

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      yeah, this is 1000% deliberate manufacturing consent

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    “Have you ever been called an AI vegan?”

    “No… Shit no! I believe saying something like that’d get your ass kicked!”

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    how to belittle and minimize a very serious thing: call any protesters of it a " ___ vegan"

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    It’s not cool to use “vegan” like this.

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      It’s like vegangate or something.

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      Got a good chuckle out of me tho

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    People just going about their business living their lives as they have for many years…

    Silicon Valley: Hey fuck you. Also I came up with a dumb nickname for you.

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    “Newspaper which uses AI to write its articles concocts derogatory term for people who doesn’t use AI”

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    This makes about as much sense as calling Linux users “Windows vegans”.

    Choosing to not use AI isn’t some wacky contrarian position, it’s a tame position that can easily be justified. (Don’t want to use AI? Then don’t.) If anything, trying to assert that constantly using AI for everything would be the new normal is the wacky position.

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    i wonder if they came up with such term to mock those who dont want to use ai and possibly actual vegans on the side.

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    And here i am not using it because I’m old and cranky.

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      I just don’t use it because it’s shit and doesn’t do anything I need any better than I can do myself in the same time.

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    I’m choosing to abstain because it’s shit. The ethical things are just a bonus. It produces inaccurate information and bland soulless images.

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      It doesn’t produce information, it produces text. Expecting that text to contain information is a fools errand

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