And then the fourth type of guy: Oh hi Mark!
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Yeah… he’s… the kind of person who is popular because he is popular, people laugh because other people are laughing, so thats what ‘funny’ is, right?
Not trying to say he’s a bad person, he’s probably a good dude, but as far as looks and talent go?
Average, but popular with people who decide which people will become popular.
Put this autisticly detailed beauty analysis in spoiler tags to avoid blowing up the thread...
Bi guy here:
lol wtf, Pete Davidson is like, the most average looking dude ever.
He’s probably just popular because people write ‘funny’ things for him to say, and people enjoy laughing, and he’s basically nice / goofy / safe.
Now Adrian Brody?
Ok, so, he actually has a chisled, yet slender face. He also has a … fairly uncommon kind of nose, for someone with such a chiseled yet slender face.
That makes him, imo, a kind of … very distinctive, ‘controversial’ kind of beautiful.
And what I mean by controversial is that… basically, there are facial proportions that are just generally seen as attractive, by most people.
But there are also people who more or less follow thoae typical ‘beautiful to everyone’ proportions, but, have some elements that wildly diverge from the ‘generally beautiful to everyone’ proportions.
This has been studied, and such people tend to be rated extremely beautiful by some people, and extremely unnatractive by other people.
Thus ‘controversially beautiful’; you either really find such a face very appealing, or you really don’t, very few people rate them as middling or average.
So, for what you describe as basically someone being drunk in the proverbial character creator menu?
Well, yeah, see, thats the kind of thing that can result in a face that some people are really into, and others are really not. You’re clearly in the ‘not into it’ camp, but a lot of women are in the ‘into it’ camp.
To attempt a similar kind of comparison with what I’d think is a controversially beautiful female face:
Look up Dichen Lachmann.
Heritage? Australian and Tibetan.
Yeah hows that for ‘drunk in the character creator menu’?
She has very striking and unique facial proportions, personally, I’m a big fan of them, but also, as I think she is ‘controversially beautiful’, I would expect a fair number of people to basically describe her as very strange looking, the way you describe Brody.
But beyond all that: Brody is actually just a very good actor, pretty talented, so… it makes sense to me that people would generally appreciate that and also find that beautiful.
Anyway, yeah, there is actual ‘science’, or at least exhaustive data analysis, that can give you an idea of how percieved beauty ‘works’, going by actual measurements of facial proportions.
Some people, some combinations of ranges of facial proportions… are just generally agreed to be unattractive, average, attractive…
… while others are ‘controversial’ with basically the opposite of a bell curve distribution, a two peak with a valley in the middle…
…other kinds of people, sets of facial proportion ranges, are generally more or less beautiful to certain identifiable subsets of people… you’ve got the whole oval/circle/triangle/diamond/heart/square rough face types, long used to help people pick out haircuts and glasses that look good on them… for artists to mockup chatacter designs with…
There are infact statistically identifiable and defineable ‘types’ of faces that certain people find more or less attractive, this kind of thing can be substantiated and defined with math. Its just that humans typically do that ‘math’ in their heads subconsciously, heuristically, and use a widely varying array of often just nonsensical adjectives to try and actually describe this… because that underlying math is actually very complicated.
That and most people also have varying exposure to different kinds of faces, depending on a whole lot of other variables, and that will to some degree also shape their perception of what is and is not beautiful.
And finally beyond that, sometimes there’s just no accounting for some kinds of personal tastes and preferences.
Uh…
I’m afraid you’re going to have to explain that meme to me a bit more, before I can have what I’d call a potentially defensible ‘fan canon’ opinion on that.
If its literally just ‘escape the matrix by poisoning yourself to death, via eating dessicant pouches’…
… then no, thats just suicide by way of being an idiot, I would not think that would … mesh with what the matrix world would seem to define as a viable means of transcending ‘reality’.
Unless there is some kind of…extremely strong, or kind of extremely ‘deep’ belief structure that goes along with this, then probably not, no.
… However…
IIRC… if we expand to include MxO’s character archetypes as potentially valid canon…
Well, one of those archetypes more or less is: you are a paranoid schizophrenic.
So… maybe? Kind of? … ???
Yes, I would say that a kind of… immense spiritual awareness, or contemplative understanding of the interconnected nature of reality (and yourself) constitutes a kind of very strong belief.
Though I don’t think its explicitly stated in the movies that the ‘spoon kid’ … literally pulls himself out of the matrix…
In MxO, which is I guess roughly ‘secondary canon’, one of the kinds of character archetypes you can play as, is basically ‘zen master’, so yeah I would tend to agree that thats probably another reasonably valid ‘canonical’ way by which someone could escape the matrix on their own, transcend ‘reality’.
Thats true, that is also a thing.
But… usually … the style shift… contextually makes sense, to… emphasize something. A mood shift, a perspective shift, a time shift, etc.
Or sometimes you get a sort of… clipshow type format, but its not actually a clipshow, its … the style is bouncing around all over the place, basically as both an artistic tour de force, and as a sort of meta joke, for that whole episode.
I guess I’m just not seeing anything like that here.
4·1 day agoI mean, a decade ago I would have laughed at the idea of this becoming real…
… but a decade ago, I also thought it was a ludicrously absurd notion that an RGB ‘gamer’ catheter would exist.
And they actually do now.
So fuck it, why not?
The US’s only real remaning cultural attribute is ‘utter depravity/shamelessness’, seems like a good fit to me.
I await my Dunkin Stacking test lol, maybe they can do varying flavors and kinds of filling or jam, like a lipstick party that’s edible.
I’m honestly tempted to think this is some kind of edit.
The art style for both characters, not just the woman, completely changes for the last two panels.
Everything is different, more simplistic faces and facial features, more swoopy, less angular, less detail, both characters become basically ovals or rounded rectangles, when they were first basically polygons… eyes for both characters are now totally different…
Honestly its pretty big femcel vibes, in the sense of the ‘woman who cannot attract a mate to save her life’ meaning of femcel.
Sounds good to me, lol!
Economists have used the uh, “BigMac Index” with an increasing level of seriousness, over the last decades… so why not?
gotta somehow also make it involve matrix transforms, maybe use quaternions, and randomly compare a random array of them, until they result they result in a 10 degree rotation in one realspace vector.
Hah, uh, that kind of behavior is actually a gigantic red flag, not cute in any way.
“I’m either extremely insecure, or need you to worship me, or both!”
Fucking run.
Dodge the bullet, literally and figuratively.
And this goes for any persons of any gender or whatever, mixed into this scenario.
This is not cute.
Yep, pretty insane if taken at face value.
My guess would be the gun is meant as a visual metaphor/joke, but uh… yeah, its not actually a wholly implausible literal scenario.
Probably the author/artist has very little real world experience with firearms, would be my guess.
…as well as the consistency and volume of their glazing…
Hey I mean, that just means it takes more handiwork from the… donut stacker… to eat the same number of donuts.
You’ve already phrased this with ‘we’, so don’t worry Albert, I’ll happily munch whatever number of donuts from your donut pole singly, as many times as it takes for me to uh, get my fill.
=P
As in, frame perfect execution of some kind of set of inputs, like a speed runner would have to pull off?
No, not in the Matrix canon I can recall off the top of my head.
They’re more focused on an… unwavering belief, or faith, in something.
Not any kind of technical, machine-like ability to execute a complex task, with high precision.
The point is being incredibly human in a way that is not machine-like, that’s the way(s) out, not in trying to out machine a machine.
EDIT:
As the Architect says to Neo in Matrix 2:
Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.
They cannot fully account for, figure out a way to fully contain what you might call the human spirit, or irrational faith of some kind.
Neo’s particular variant of this kind of irrational drive… is his love of Trinity.
… its rather sappy, actually, lol.
4 more or less inverts this, it is Trinity’s love of Neo that ultimately saves/reawakens him.
They’ve actually been caught doing this, in some instances.
There was a guy picking up radio signals and chatter from a classified test aircraft or something like thag.
He thought it was weird, reported it to local authorities.
Long story short, the military / government gas lit the fuck out him, told him it might be aliens, keep researching it.
He eventually went pretty much completely insane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz
Do try and keep your wits about you when delving into such stories and theories.
Some are total nonsense spread by grifters, some are innacurate but genuine reports, some are intentional mis and disinfo… and some of it is real.
It’s a fucking mess.
I think the word for this is co-opt.
You don’t ‘debunk’ it.
You put your people either in control of, or position them as massively influential figures within it, or coax such people over to your flavor of that kind of messaging.
I mean, there are lots of studies on the distribution of male donut pole sizes, I’m just doing a rough comparison to the latest meta-analyses of such data.
I can provide sources…
… if you give me a donut.
…
… but Albert.
I am very hungry.
[>:D]