I had another usb cable wear out just this weekend and it got me thinking
Rule 5. Locking.
The later revisions of android auto are Bluetooth, but the first version was cable only. So you just have a car that only had the older version.
Its actually WiFi direct for the wireless version, Bluetooth is for the audio.
Yeah so my question could be rephrased as “why can’t my car be updated to handle android auto wirelessly if all the necessary gear is already there?”. Well, turns out some of the gear might be missing after all.
FYI, they make $30-40 bluetooth pucks that make android auto wireless if your car only supports wired. I got one from Motorola and it works great.
I tried the Motorola one and it was unreliable. Switched to the AA wireless and it’s been great.
I still use wired USB for long trips tho, phone doesn’t heat up quite so much that way.
Another AA wireless user here. Worth the extra bucks to have a solid connection compared to the cheap adapters.
Gear might be missing, but the larger problem is car makers like a sell and forget model. The make money on spare parts, but upgrades are not part of the business model. (Maintenance is a dealer profit item not Thiers) so they don’t see a way to make money.
Its not there. Newer wireless head units have WiFi built in to handle the screen mirroring portion. Which is why a software update won’t work. You need a wireless android auto adapter to get wireless. They work great, just don’t cheap out on it.
Android Auto uses 5GHz WiFi direct, so your headunit needs to support that. If your headunit only supports 2.4GHz, you’ll be a bit out of luck.
Spotify streaming may be okay with the 2.4GHz or even just plain Bluetooth.
This is also why those USB dongles can allow you to connect wirelessly. It’s essentially just a 5GHz antenna plugged into your car’s USB port.
My car has its own SIM card, why does it need to connect to my phone anyway?
Edit: I mean directly
Android auto/Apple CarPlay is screen mirroring. The apps run on your phone, not the car.
The benefit is that all the app and OS updates your phone receives are reflected in the Android auto experience, without needing the vehicle manufacturer to constantly ship updates and provide support for the head unit of your car for years after it’s originally manufactured.
Using a cellular connection for that would be very slow, laggy and unreliable. It would also use a ton of data, which someone would have to pay for.
A number of reasons:
- uses a lot of data (car data plans are often pretty low)
- relatively slow compared to 5GHz
- coverage, you ideally want your navigation and music to keep playing even if you go out of range
Makes sense! Thanks for taking time to explain it all.
Android Auto is a full phone-projection system, not just an app connecting to your car. It simultaneously handles screen mirroring, input forwarding, audio routing, and sensor sharing.
All of that happening at once requires low latency, high bandwidth, and a stable, reliable connection.
You can get a small USB device that plugs into the head unit in place of the cable and negotiates a wireless connection with your phone. Mine was a complete game changer, from constantly fiddling with the cable to the phobe already having connected by the time I get into the car.
I know there are options but all I can find are from manufacturers I don’t know/trust. Which one are you using?
Motorola has one that works really well. I think they announced an updated version recently too.
https://www.motorola.com/us/en/p/motoaccessories/accessories/auto-accessories/ma1
I had no idea! I’ll be getting one asap.
The one I’m using doesn’t seem to be stocked any more, it was from a brand called Jansite (no, I’d never hear of them either) and has a horrible RGB glowing ring around it, but it’s small and I could plug it in to the USB port in the glove box, so I don’t have to look at it. It’s worked flawlessly so far, and I’m sure there are other brands of then out there. It was advertised as “Highly compatible wireless carplay adapter Android Auto Wireless adapter 2 in 1, Plug-and-Play Type-C/USB Wireless Carplay Adapter with 5Ghz WiFi, Fast Transmission RGB Easy to Use”, so you kniw it has to be good! (It’s actually USB Type-A).
Oh no I love it! Glad it worked out!
Been using cheap chinese ones from Amazon for several years without any issues really.
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Because my favourite mp3’s live on my memory stick.
What is the make and model of the car?
Short version. It’s most likely cost and data mining.
Some car manufacturers refuse to put wireless connectivity or require a subscription or offer it as an upgrade for Carplay/Android Auto. If it’s an older car then it might not have wifi connectivity and only has Bluetooth.
Some car manufacturers want you to plug your phone in so that you have to use their always connected infotainment system so they can still control the flow of data. There’s lots of articles about it.
In short, it is what it is. Change out your radio or get an adapter.
It does have wifi connectivity and even has its own SIM card. Apparently it’s a connection speed thing. Sucks, I hoped it’s a software problem with a solution :(
SIM card just means that the infotainment system can act as a wifi hotspot, it’s to get you to pay for their data mining connection and pay them a subscription in exchange for whatever perceived convenience that they are offering. That doesn’t mean that it has wifi for Android Auto or Carplay. That’s just one reason that many manufacturers are removing Android Auto and Carplay for their own versions.
AAWireles will give you wireless Android Auto.
Mine doesn’t. I have a 2025 vehicle that is totally okay with bluetooth connectivity. Sounds like your vehicle’s manufacturer may still like the idea of usb connections.
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