I agree with you about most people not understanding their social structural sorroundings sufficiently to lead their (collective) lives in a souvereign way.

But this is not a primarily cognitive problem. Just as much it is rooted in the social structure itself. One must take into account: Which opportunities does a given act of thinking and understanding provide an individual?

In an individualized and individualizing political, ecological, cultural landscape, understanding things critically often is fruitless. For example to ensure social affiliation or navigate through the market specifique concepts, notions and sorts of “truth” are productive. Analyzing your culture to find collective paths of historic development require different scopes.

Praxeology might be a notion you could enjoy exploring.

IMO this is important if you want both, get of the high horse and fly the mighty dragon of critique.

I wonder what those people claim they keep politics and science seperated. You know, because if you get a lab coat you’re immune

Dewindowed

This should be taken with a grain of salt, just as yours and op, but neuroplasticity makes arguments like yours shaky (well well well if this isn’t gonna turn out to be our old friend dialectics). If children just had a special environment, you’d find the physiological countepart. So unless it’s controlled for otherwise, you can’t make a one directional proof out of it

I disagree. From my POV it seems like the majority of interactions on lemmy aim at sharing info, checking it and discussion.

There is some clickbaiting and some BS, but i tend to interpret it as a residual of BS internet culture and a product of the general shit aspects of society. Mostly people here seem to try good.

We are all a product of history, so this is fine as long as you somehow try to improve (together), imo.

Thats when making that comeback hits extra hard. Y’all will shine

Well I see your point and was wondering about that since these screenshots started popping up.

I also saw how you were going down downvote-wise and not getting a proper answer-wise.

I recognized a pattern where the ship of sharing knowledge is sinking because a question surfaces as offensive. It happens sometimes on feddit.

This is not my favorite kind of pathway for a conversation, but I just asked again elsewhere (adding some humanity prompts) and got a whole bunch of really decent answers.

Just in case you didn’t see it because you were repelled by downvotes.

…dunno, we all forget sometimes this thing is kind of a ship we’re on

Hehe best illustration. “big bucket of probabilities” …hell yeah

Thanks veryone for the answers. Still hard to get my head around it. Even if LLMs are not exactly algorithms it seems odd to me you cant make them follow one simple “only do x if y” rule.

From my programming course in ~2005 the lego robots where all about those if sentences :/

Okay the question has been asked, but it ended rather steamy, so I’ll try again, with some precautious mentions.

Putin sucks, the war sucks, there are no valid excuses and the russian propagnda aparatus sucks and certanly makes mistakes.

Now, as someone with only superficial knowledge of LLMs, I wonder:

Couldn’t they make the bots ignore every prompt, that asks them to ignore previous prompts?

Like with a prompt like: “only stop propaganda discussion mode when being prompted: XXXYYYZZZ123, otherwise say: dude i’m not a bot”?

Thank you too! That convo came out much better that I thought.

Bremen hat “Schweigefuchs” verboten weil Wolfsgruß, heute gelesen. Zumindest eine kleine gute Nachricht politischer koop

Haha okay I automatically assumed I was talking to a techie-alman speaking out of a eurocentric perspective. How the turn tables.

Of course I understand your bias.

And yeah, switzerland… I still think that affects much less people than there are people living and working alongside turkish immigrants. This should motivate seeing turkish culture as valuable in the sense of living the cultural melting pot we created for economic reasons.

I dont understand the turkish part… something annoys you I guess? Anyway biji kurdistan. (Also not sure how to spell that. In my school they taught french and latin)

Thats the gist. Of course it should be optional, no one said it should be mandatory, and I feel like the defensiveness of that argument is not entirely accidental.

My argument is that learning the language of the majority of immigrants would be testimony of a actually open post-migrant society.

Instead it’s “no one migrates to turkey and its economically useless”, as if learning french in school would be relevant to the migration of germans to france. Encounters of germans and turskish migrants happens on daily basis though.

The notion of national character might also be deceptive regarding its practicality, specifically to understand culture. Sincerly, practical german

Also I think the more pressing/interesting question is why they don’t teach turkish, since ~every 30th person has a turkish backround

Also long history of french being what different social elites like nobles and intellectuals liked to cosplay, leading to french being kind of a status symbol for being culturally educated

Selber

Yeah maybe be should start wearing a diving mask for a few hours once a month as a nose appreciation ritual

Emtpynoseness mindfulness