• forbiddencherry@lemmy.today
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    Celebrating the death of another is bad actually, yes. And it does make you a bad person. You don’t have to mourn the dead if they’re scum. Speak ill of them all you want. But to celebrate another’s death takes it a step further. It means you’re severely lacking in humanity, in empathy. You’ve left civility completely behind. It lowers you to the same level of those you despise, and perhaps even lower. Are you a person that only has hate and bitterness in your heart? Change that so you can actually enjoy the better and brighter future that you hope for.

    • BrickEater@lemmy.world
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      Nah seeing bad people die is fun. I could watch Nazis getting shot all day, hell I’d have it as background videos for a rave if I could.

      You sound like Batman’s bitch ass letting the Joker off for the millionth time to go kill more.

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      No empathy for those who are void of empathy

      I have joy and hope for positive developments, and that is not diminished by my joy at one less active enemy of life

      Peace cannot exist without a credible threat of violence

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        Lol party all you want. I’m not OP. I don’t hold absolutist views on the morality of celebrating a death.

        But the moral evaluation of an agent celebrating the death of another has absolutely nothing, at all, to do with the “Paradox of Tolerance”. At the first whisper of critical thought applied to the concept, you’ll find that people will always motte-and-bailey to “It is a descriptive paradox and prescribes nothing”. So even if it was conceptually relevant, suggesting the the paradox of tolerance actually “suggests” any action is already a misapplication.

        You are free. You don’t need to appeal to anything. The guy was hurting people and now he can’t anymore. You don’t need any to reference any philosopher to give yourself permission to accept 1+1=2.

        We cheer when the firefighters extinguish a blaze. We don’t mourn the loss of a jagged edge on a hand railing after a craftsman sands it smooth. I’m pretty comfortable with feeling relief when I land at a toilet when I rreeaallyy have to take a shit. The hangup that you can’t be happy that something that was hurting you is gone is the weird thing. It’s incumbent on anyone to explain why you shouldn’t celebrate, not to justify why you can.

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      Counterpoint: I am human, with a heart that can contain hate, bitterness, joy, hope, and all sorts of other feelings. To quote the words of Walt Whitman, I am legion; I contain multitudes.

      Today, celebrating the death of evil is joy, but even so hate and bitterness often get a bum rap. They are sometimes our best motivators to act to change injustice, and as such, are vital emotions.

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      Doesn’t count when the person who died was a fascist who actively worked to make the lives of marginalized folks even worse.

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      Bore off.

      Some people are absolutely deserving of death and we should rejoice when they are gone for their absence makes the world and objectively better place

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      You celebrate when an epidemic ends, you celebrate when a fire is extinguished, you celebrate when an actively damaging piece of shit dies. Not that difficult.

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      I’m taking the day or 2 off after that orange fuck finally dies (to party). I just hope it’s incredibly painful when it happens. Maybe I’ll even make t-shirts for the friends who join in on the party.

      I think it’s more civil to celebrate the deaths of horrible people. Sounds like a “rose-coloured glasses” type scenario that you’re discussing.