So, I’ve never gotten drunk before. I’ve had a drink or two on occasion, but never enough to get more than buzzed. And realistically now that I’m on antidepressants I probably won’t any time in the near future.
Something I’ve wondered about is when it comes up in movies or real life news stories is: Exactly how responsible are you for things you do while drunk? Not legally, that’s more concrete, but practically. If alcohol inhibits your decision making capabilities, to what extent is anything done while drunk something you “decided” to do? You could still be held accountable for getting so drunk in the first place that this was able to happen, but that seems at least somewhat different from the actual act made during inebriation. Like say, drunk driving: Is the act of deciding to drive drunk merely the act of drinking a lot plus a roll of the dice to see if you end up making a decision you wouldn’t have made sober?
Like I said though, I have no personal experience with this, so maybe I’m way off base in understanding the nature of how in control a drunk person is of their behavior.
Before I started drinking, I had the misconception that drunk people literally have no control over their actions. Then, in university, I got drunk somewhat frequently and also helped take of other drunk people and my view changed.
There are things I might do drunk that I wouldn’t do sober, same thing when I’m stoned. But I wouldn’t cross the line into serious crimes like drunk driving because, even with inhibitions lowered, I am still able to think through the consequences. Being drunk tends to make people a little more impulsive and less concerned about consequences but not to the point of doing things they know are morally wrong or highly illegal, unless they’re already willing to do those things sober. Are there some people who alcohol does affect to that point? Maybe. But, like you said, the responsible thing for those people to do is not drink. Most people wouldn’t drink if doing so took a gamble that they’ll do something highly illegal or immoral that they aren’t willing to do sober
In my hometown, there was a lot of drunk violence, which gave me the misconception of drunk people having no control over their actions. My university friends informed me that violent drunks are already violent people to begin with
it’s crazy how many people are confidently answering “you never lose control from alcohol” when they’ve obviously never been blackout drunk.
like, sure, there’s definitely a varying degree of effects to some point but when you black out (drink so much that you don’t remember it) you lose control of your actions. when you black out you do things that you would never do sober.
most people don’t black out more than a few times in their life because it happens, they go “wow that was awful I sure don’t want to do that again” and then don’t. they are the lucky ones. then you have people like me (alcoholics) who want to be anything but themselves and want to feel anything but what they’re feeling so desperately that it happens a lot.
no it’s not just “lowered inhibitions so you do what you want to do sober but stop yourself from doing,” your body goes into autopilot. it’s more like sleepwalking than staying up so late that you start feeling loopy once it hits that point. for an example, the first time I ever blacked out I tried to convince my mom that my dugout (block of wood for holding weed and pipe) would open the hotel room door… that’s not “lowered inhibitions” that’s a brain that’s not working
now I’m a little annoyed by the amount of confidently incorrect in this thread but on a serious note I’m glad so many of y’all don’t get it. alcoholism is a terrible affliction that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. it’s a bad time, through and through.
i think a part of why there are so many wrong answers though is because of the word “responsible.” you’re responsible for what you do while blackout drunk because you are the one who got blackout drunk. nobody else poured the booze down your throat for you. so, while what you do in that state is out of your control, you are entirely responsible for it.
the first time I ever blacked out I tried to convince my mom that my dugout (block of wood for holding weed and pipe) would open the hotel room door…
According to the Many Worlds Theory of Quantum Mechanics, there is a universe out there, where, when you attempted to open the hotel room door with your dugout, through random molecular interactions, it actually did open the door’s locking mechanism.
idk who downvoted you but this is hilarious. I’m very amused imagining that happening lol
Things get really weird when you start chasing infinities of probabilities. There is a non-zero chance of nearly anything happening. In theory, you could turn around right now and find the literal historical Genghis Khan standing behind you, complete with all his memories, having instantly been assembled just then through random molecular motions. In theory, you could be walking down the street, and a blue London police call box could materialize in front of you, and out could walk a man who honestly believes himself to be the literal Dr. Who. Ever feel nostalgia for the events of your childhood? There’s a non-zero probability of the entire Earth spontaneously rearranging itself to recreate that long-gone setting, including placing everyone back in age-appropriate forms.
The probability of such absurdities is so low that “astronomical” doesn’t even begin to convey how remotely small they are. So low that if the universe was maxed out on population, and everyone sat there watching until the heat death of the universe, that the odds of any one person observing such a thing would be less than 1%. But according to Many Worlds, any possible quantum interaction does occur.
Which means that there’s a universe out there where you have a magic light switch. Every time you flip the switch, in addition to the light turning on, a gold bar appears in the middle of the room. Again, the gold bar was simply assembled by random chance from particles in the environment. In this universe, one day your light switch just started making gold. At first you were astonished, so you tried it again. In most universes, the second time did nothing. But in some, it happened again. And in some particularly rare universes, it’s worked the dozens of time you’ve tried it. You showed your loved ones just to prove to yourself you’re not crazy, and the light switch still made gold. You brought in outside experts, even bringing in physicists and chemists from your local university to observe. And damnit, even in front of them, the light switch still makes gold! They examine the light switch but cannot find anything out of the ordinary with it. As far as repeated testing has shown, you have a magic light switch that makes gold, the one seemingly supernatural oddity in an otherwise completely rational universe. According to Many Worlds, there is a universe out there where this happened to you.
very fun stuff. there’s a bit in an episode of Midnight Burger (audio drama about a time-travelling dimension-spanning diner) where they’re explaining it to someone and they say “there’s a world where mark david chapman missed and the beatles got back together! i like that world.” :)
what’s even crazier to me than the sci-fi stuff though is how often we encounter vanishingly impossible odds, 52! blew my fucking mind the first time I heard it explained.
I’m one of the people who gave an answer like you’re describing and I have to admit, I’ve never been blackout drunk
yeah, no hate. like I said I’m glad you don’t get it. it’s not a fun lesson to learn.
Not being able to remember what you did doesn’t mean that you lost control of your actions. When you “blackout” you don’t enter a like blackout state where you lose control from then on - you just don’t remember periods of time.
you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’ll reiterate, I’m glad you don’t
but you don’t
I absolutely do. You obviously have done some terrible things while drunk so you cope by shirking ownership
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Twice in my youth I’ve blacked out. I remember the start of the evening, and I remember waking up with no clue how I got to where I was. In between, there’s nothing. I couldn’t tell you whether I was still in control or not, because I simply don’t remember. Neither do my friends: I just disappeared.
Other times, when I was “normally” drunk, it’s definitely like others here have said: fewer inhibitions but there’s still a core that can make decisions. But when I blacked out? No idea. I might’ve stolen the Mona Lisa and replaced it with my own copy for all I know.
I just wish I remembered where I put the real one.
Thanks for the insight. That sounds pretty rough. I hope you can get better soon.
I’ve been kinda going back and forth in my head on whether or not to respond to this, but I’ve landed on “respond and try to keep it pithy” (something I’m bad at)
you don’t really “get better” with alcoholism or addiction. you can be sober 20+ years and you’re still an alcoholic, just a sober one.
that said I’m hanging in there, one day at a time and whatnot
“A drunk man’s words are a sober man’s thoughts”
When drunk most people just do things that they wish they could when sober. That’s the real danger. Or as in Latin: In vino veritas
Sometimes I think people who act differently drunk aren’t even that drunk, they’re just using it as an excuse
For sure. Lots of people use alcohol as an excuse to act in a way they actually want to. Especially for those who are ashamed of what that actually want.
Tipsy is nice. It’s warm and my brain stops screaming. Drunk is unpleasant. Disgustingly hot not warm. Sick.
I try to not drink often though, at most once a month. Addiction runs in the family.
Same. Basically quit.
I have a particularly weird view on this so I don’t know how helpful it will be, but I share it when people discuss alcohol.
You, as a person, are basically an imaginary construct given meaning by consistency. Your friends trust you because you consistently behave in a way that says they can trust you. The pattern of behaviours is you because the physical parts swap out all the time. When you drink, you distort yourself a little, because it distorts the behaviour. Anyone who says it doesn’t is delusional. For some people, the distortion is minor. For others, it distorts them a great deal. The drunk you is always so distorted as to be essentially a different person, but one for whom you have total responsibility, because you ‘gave them the keys’ as it were. You are letting the funhouse mirror version of yourself take control of your body so you can be amused by the distortions. Everybody’s mirror is different, but they are all distorted. How much do you trust someone who is much like you, but distorted?
The drunker I get, the less thinking I do for before acting. Still kinda in control but more easily swayed by myself to do whatever tf.
Lol, buncha normies up in this thread.
Being drunk can be, and often is, a lot of fun. There’s a reason why it’s probably one of the oldest and most frequently used mind alterants in history.
That said, getting drunk by itself is a pretty neutral, if not unpleasant, experience. What it does do is make everything else you’re doing more enjoyable. The music is hitting harder, the person you’re talking to is more attractive, YOU’RE more attractive, the joke you told is funnier, etc. It amplifies all the emotions, and since it also reduces anxiety, often the whole of those emotions experiences are positive.
Creativity flows, free assocation is strong, your mood is expansive and gregarious.
As for how much control you have, it’s like a sliding scale. At the light end, you’re still pretty much in complete control of your facilities, though you may do things because your mood is better. As one becomes drunker a multitude of things happen that undermine one’s self-control until there is very little or none left and people run on a kind of autopilot that is a combination of basic human instincts and the behavioral patterns developed over their lifetime.
There is a type of mental fog that gets stronger as the scale moves farther into drunkeness. This fog begins to inhibit higher order thinking until you can’t make any decisions besides satisfying the most immediate physical needs, or deep seated psychological drives.
Anyway, it’s a lot of fun until it isn’t.
Anyway, it’s a lot of fun until it isn’t.
This sums it up pretty well.
Someone once told me “getting drunk is fun, being drunk isn’t.” and it rings pretty true.
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Right on
Impairment is gradual but you also progressively loose the ability to judge your degree of impairment
Alcohol removes inhibitions. You still make decisions, though. What it tends to do is bring out who you really are. “In vino, veritas” as they say.
I’m a simple man. Mostly when drunk I want to hug dogs and listen to Guided by Voices. I don’t know if this helps.
IDK if it’s just because I am autistic and have adhd but I never felt like it dropped mg inhibitions as is commonly described. I feel, mentally, exactly the same as when I am sober. It’s my body that ends up feeling different, and it’s only pleasant for a little while before I feel sick as fuck and get the spins (feeling like you’re spinning around even when you’re laying down). The physical numbness is kinda nice tho.
Drinking is about experience. Usually people overdo it a few times when young and from that point on know how drunk on their way to too much they are.
Personally I have gotten drunk to the point of vomiting and needing to sleep it off. Never more than that, so I can’t report on blackout drunk.
But I’m personally of the impression that drunk people that get aggressive or do irresponsible shit usually want to do this anyways and alcohol is just a way to excuse for them acting that out. The reduced inhibition and the social stigma is a good combination to dare and have cover because you are a drunk.
As to why people want to act that out, I’m assuming they have unresolved issues that come out that way. And those issues are probably hard to control. So these people should probably not drink and get therapy instead.
Least, there is a factor of mild drinking that helps talk about things. So there is a factor of alcohol that can help with certain issues like social anxiety or daring to talk to somebody about a long held problem. So its a mixed bag.
Alcohol is not healthy, no amount is. But it helps to cope with reality, so with care and the right measure it can be a plus in life.
You decided to do everything you do while you were drunk. You will have less inhibitions and more impulsive, but you still make the decision and are responsible for it.
I’ve only been properly drunk once. For myself, at no point did I feel out of control, and my reasoning ability still seemed perfectly intact.
It was interesting to observe the effects of the drunkenness on my balance and ever increasing ‘lag’ type feeling, and I did notice I was a bit less inhibited, though I was around friends I already was quite comfortable with so I wasn’t that inhibited to begin with, but even still I did catch myself saying something I might’ve held back or said in a less direct way. At that point I was satisfied with the experiment and didn’t drink any more that night.
The experience did make me wonder how other people could convince themselves to drive while drunk, as even while I was wobbling to the bathroom, I was fully aware that I was totally incapable of safely driving.
I also had no issues recalling that night, so I didn’t get drunk enough to get ‘blackout’ drunk.
It’s completely lame as f*** and nothing at all like how its hyped up to be.
Like say, drunk driving: Is the act of deciding to drive drunk merely the act of drinking a lot plus a roll of the dice to see if you end up making a decision you wouldn’t have made sober?
It’s an act of poor planning in regards to safety. That’s what the crime or sin is in this case. Don’t bring your car with you if you’re going to drink and don’t drink if you bought your car with you.
Because being drunk fucks up your reaction speeds it’s not about making poor decisions while driving but rather not being able to react in time while driving and also misjudging how much force to apply when steering and pedalling and braking.
So some common outcomes of drunk driving are:
- drive into a tree because failed to turn enough on a curving road.
- drive into the back of another vehicle because you pedal too hard or brake too little
- drive into another vehicle perpendicular to yourself because didn’t check well enough due to impaired perception, impatience.
- also can ruin judgement of distances which will increase likelihood of all of the following occuring.






