• inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
    49·
    3 days ago

    “Yeeaeh, can I get a #2 DIY truth combo with a side of platitudes and a large willful ignorance? And then could I get a child sized looming environmental impact too?”

  • Aniki@feddit.org
    3·
    2 days ago

    this has been going on for a while now and is not related to AI at all.

    it’s called post-structuralism and has been going on at least since the 2000 (at least in spirit, that’s when it gained traction among many scholars etc.). it says that there is no “objective reality” (in other words, only subjective realities exists, everybody sees the world differently and there are no absolute rules/morals).

    basically it says that you can just construct your own truth if you are powerful / wealthy enough to do that.

    • Aniki@feddit.org
      2·
      2 days ago

      well, at first one would think that it is. then again, it’s historically normal that different groups of people worldwide have had their own culture, religion and beliefs and worldview. why would this today be worse than back then?

    • ikt@aussie.zone
      2·
      3 days ago

      it’s comical? most ai’s have moved on beyond you are absolutely right

      claude especially

        • ikt@aussie.zone
          2·
          3 days ago

          are you talking about facebook or ai?

          which ai are you using, can you give an example?

          • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 days ago

            Claude. Gemini. My local LLM which is various models.

            As a stupid example, I just asked Gemini how to outsource my lawn mowing to low-cost labor in India. While it did tell me that’s logistically impossible, it also said it’s a creative thought and it respects my dedication to cost efficiency.

            And that’s with a completely ridiculous example. If you try something more plausible but still a bad idea, they don’t just tell you it’s a bad idea.

            • NostraDavid@programming.dev
              1·
              2 days ago

              how to outsource my lawn mowing to low-cost labor in India

              You cannot meaningfully outsource physical lawn mowing in the Netherlands to low-cost labor in India, unless the worker is only doing coordination. Lawn mowing is location-bound.

              The workable versions are:

              1. Outsource the administration to India

                Hire an Indian virtual assistant to find local lawn-care providers, compare quotes, schedule visits, chase invoices, and monitor recurring service. The mowing itself is still done locally.

              2. Use a robot mower

                This is the closest real substitute for cheap recurring labor. You pay upfront for a robotic mower, then only outsource occasional maintenance, blade replacement, boundary-wire fixes, and winter storage.

              3. Hire local low-cost labor

                In the Netherlands, that usually means a student, neighborhood handyman, garden-service freelancer, or someone via a local platform. This is the practical low-cost route.

              4. Teleoperated mower

                In theory, someone in India could remotely drive a mower. In practice, this is not a normal consumer option. You would need a mower with cameras, low-latency control, safety cutoffs, insurance coverage, and probably someone local to place it outside, handle obstructions, and deal with failures. At that point it is usually more expensive than local mowing.

              So the sane setup is:

              Indian VA for procurement and scheduling + local mower/gardener for execution, or robot mower + local maintenance.

              GPT-5.5 Thinking, for context.

            • ikt@aussie.zone
              1·
              3 days ago

              instead of a silly and irrelevant example, maybe actually try and convince claude of something and tell me how you go?

              what’s the most controversial political opinion you have that most would disagree with and share the chat link :)

              expecting no reply because you’ll find claude has guardrails and the cartoon is once again largely based on chatgpt

              edit: it’s ok, found what I wanted: https://dystopiabench.com/ good to know the european version is the worst :(

              • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
                3·
                3 days ago

                I didn’t say I could convince them to agree to anything. I said they kiss ass even if you’re wrong. I guess my metaphor of fellatio wasn’t really straightforward enough.

                • ikt@aussie.zone
                  1·
                  3 days ago

                  oh i was referring to the cartoon which implies ai will straight lie to you about anything and never presents facts

                  this is comical and not true, you can easily push into guardrails even by mistake

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    Friendly reminder: if you intentionally generate nonsense content thinking it will screw up AI, and congratulate yourself for being a Justice Warrior, you’re equally screwing all the humans who look stuff up online. That form of social activism is like peeing in the pool, except there’s no chlorine.