Wow, you really are an absolute caricature of a social justice warrior
Ah, now this all makes sense. You’re a conservative.
Since you pointed out the existence of an Anglo/Eurocentric world view first I guess that must mean you think normal means whiteness and you are trying to welcome me to the club?
That’s not how putting words in quotations marks work.
I am not a conservative, I am a left leaning classical libertarian that wants universal healthcare, UBI, LGBTQ rights, safe and legal abortions, and both religion and money out of government because these are the most effective/cost effective ways for government to support the common good.
You trying to put words in my mouth such as gender and sex being the same, or that I am a bigot who thinks normal = whiteness because I point out that social media started in and is primarily used in rich Euro/Americasphere countries is why you are a caricature, and I am real sick and tired of you doing so.
You think “social justice warrior” is an insult. So maybe you should rethink your other positions.
I’m happy to be insulted by the same term that could be used on Malcolm X or Nelson Mandela, even though it definitely does not apply. It’s very flattering nonetheless.
No, I think that being a caricature by calling anyone who you seem to think is any amount to the right of you a white supremacist bigot and misconstruing them as such by putting words in their mouth like a character made up by Fox News is what’s asinine, and would be the “insult” in this case.
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And you are seriously telling me that because I don’t pass your purity test I should rethink and abandon my leftist ideals/positions and just what, go right wing? This, right here, is why you are a caricature.
You know that that words can have different connotations based on how they are used, and there is a vast difference between using maybe in a sentence like “maybe you want ice cream” and “maybe you should shut up” when used in an argument.
Both still indicate a positive stance or recommendation to the other person, and “maybe you should rethink your positions” can only be taken as the speaker passive aggressively advising the other person to change said positions. Hell, it’s almost impossible to find another connotation to “maybe you…”, as it is almost exclusively used in a passive aggressive manner.
Attempting to claim gaslighting is a cheap cop out, like a TV mob boss saying they didn’t threaten someone when they said “maybe they will encounter a little ‘accident’”. Gaslighting also has a definition, is a form of abuse meant to cause a person to question their sanity and grasp of reality, and I take major offense to being accused of such.
You accuse me of bigotry and either quote other people as if they were me or make up positions you say I hold for said accusations, accuse me in a round about way of white supremacy by saying I think normalness is whiteness, then accuse me of gaslighting for taking your comment as passive aggressive and want to report me for trolling? If this isn’t trolling from you then I feel really sorry for you.
Sorry, that was not an admission that you clearly misinterpreted what I was saying, so I don’t think this conversation is worth continuing.
I’m not really interested in talking to someone who appears incapable of ever admitting fault.
And before you accuse me of being the same way, I’ll be happy to give you a chunky list of things in the last 48 hours or so that I fucked up on and take the blame for. It would be of about average length. A lot of things are my fault all the time.
If I didn’t need more proof you are trolling, after accusing me of gaslighting you come back with the “I’m sorry you feel that way”. Thank you for confirming.
Ah, now this all makes sense. You’re a conservative.
That’s not how putting words in quotations marks work.
I am not a conservative, I am a left leaning classical libertarian that wants universal healthcare, UBI, LGBTQ rights, safe and legal abortions, and both religion and money out of government because these are the most effective/cost effective ways for government to support the common good.
You trying to put words in my mouth such as gender and sex being the same, or that I am a bigot who thinks normal = whiteness because I point out that social media started in and is primarily used in rich Euro/Americasphere countries is why you are a caricature, and I am real sick and tired of you doing so.
You think “social justice warrior” is an insult. So maybe you should rethink your other positions.
I’m happy to be insulted by the same term that could be used on Malcolm X or Nelson Mandela, even though it definitely does not apply. It’s very flattering nonetheless.
No, I think that being a caricature by calling anyone who you seem to think is any amount to the right of you a white supremacist bigot and misconstruing them as such by putting words in their mouth like a character made up by Fox News is what’s asinine, and would be the “insult” in this case.
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And you are seriously telling me that because I don’t pass your purity test I should rethink and abandon my leftist ideals/positions and just what, go right wing? This, right here, is why you are a caricature.
I was going to respond more substantively, but then I saw your edit and I realized you badly trying to gaslight me. This is what I said:
Which means I wasn’t telling you that you that you should do anything.
You are not an idiot. You know what the word maybe means.
You are terrible at gaslighting and if that is what this has devolved into, I’ll just report you for trolling and move on.
You know that that words can have different connotations based on how they are used, and there is a vast difference between using maybe in a sentence like “maybe you want ice cream” and “maybe you should shut up” when used in an argument.
Both still indicate a positive stance or recommendation to the other person, and “maybe you should rethink your positions” can only be taken as the speaker passive aggressively advising the other person to change said positions. Hell, it’s almost impossible to find another connotation to “maybe you…”, as it is almost exclusively used in a passive aggressive manner.
Attempting to claim gaslighting is a cheap cop out, like a TV mob boss saying they didn’t threaten someone when they said “maybe they will encounter a little ‘accident’”. Gaslighting also has a definition, is a form of abuse meant to cause a person to question their sanity and grasp of reality, and I take major offense to being accused of such.
You accuse me of bigotry and either quote other people as if they were me or make up positions you say I hold for said accusations, accuse me in a round about way of white supremacy by saying I think normalness is whiteness, then accuse me of gaslighting for taking your comment as passive aggressive and want to report me for trolling? If this isn’t trolling from you then I feel really sorry for you.
Sorry, that was not an admission that you clearly misinterpreted what I was saying, so I don’t think this conversation is worth continuing.
I’m not really interested in talking to someone who appears incapable of ever admitting fault.
And before you accuse me of being the same way, I’ll be happy to give you a chunky list of things in the last 48 hours or so that I fucked up on and take the blame for. It would be of about average length. A lot of things are my fault all the time.
If I didn’t need more proof you are trolling, after accusing me of gaslighting you come back with the “I’m sorry you feel that way”. Thank you for confirming.
If I am trolling, please report me to the lemmy.world administrators, as that violates the terms of service.
You’ll find out if you were successful if I have an instance ban. Good luck with that and goodbye.