• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    22·
    3 months ago

    How so? This is straight from the dictionary:

    3
    a: the unauthorized use of another’s production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright
    b: the illicit accessing of broadcast signals

    • unauthorized - I’m not hacking around any YouTube authentication, nor did I agree to any additional terms of service
    • infringement of copyright - again, I’m not sharing it, reposting it, etc; I’m just accessing it as normal
    • illicit - I’m not breaking any laws

    So which part is incorrect?

    • redfellow@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      21·
      3 months ago

      You continue defining yet more terms to avoid saying another. You do you, but that’s not how the world works

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        12·
        3 months ago

        What am I avoiding? You said my definition of piracy was incorrect. So I provided a commonly used dictionary definition of piracy to show my point.

        If you have another definition that is widely used, I’m happy to discuss it. But something isn’t piracy just because someone isn’t getting paid when they expect to be paid, it’s only piracy if you actually meet the definition of piracy.

            • redfellow@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              2·
              3 months ago

              The part where your text wasn’t from a cited agreed upon source, but your own ass. God damn give it a rest and take your ADHD meds ffs.

              • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                12·
                3 months ago

                You mentioned my definition, so I linked a commonly used dictionary definition. Here it is again in case you missed it:

                https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/piracy

                I even copy/pasted the relevant part of the definition, ignoring the high seas definition. I don’t know what more you expect. If you have an issue with the source I cited, cite your own. If you have an issue with my interpretation of that definition, articulate it.

                • redfellow@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  Are you daft? You chose one fourth of the definition, dismissing the parts that made you sound like a retard. Im sick and tired of having to engange with autistic pricks like yourself. Fucking take a hint.

                  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    11·
                    3 months ago

                    Ok, here’s the rest:

                    1: an act of robbery on the high seas
                    also : an act resembling such robbery

                    2: robbery on the high seas

                    3
                    a: the unauthorized use of another’s production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright
                    b: the illicit accessing of broadcast signals

                    Definitions 1 & 2 absolutely do not apply here, so I initially only copied the third, because it’s the only thing that could apply.

                    And here’s the legal definition (I usually don’t copy this because people tend to use the colloquial definition):

                    1: an act of robbery especially on the high seas
                    specifically : an illegal act of violence, detention, or plunder committed for private ends by crew or passengers of a private ship or aircraft against another ship or aircraft on the high seas or in a place outside the jurisdiction of any state see also air piracy

                    2
                    a: the unauthorized copying, distribution, or use of another’s production (as a film) especially in infringement of a copyright software piracy
                    b: the unauthorized use, interception, or receipt of encoded communications (as satellite cable programming) especially to avoid paying fees for use
                    the statute’s purpose is to proscribe the piracy of programming signals—
                    United States v. Harrell, 983 F.2d 36 (1993)

                    3: the crime of committing piracy

                    Again, 1 and 3 aren’t relevant. 2a also doesn’t apply because there’s no copying or distribution.

                    So we’re left with 2b. To decide whether it applies would require deciding whether TOS applies merely when accessing a website. I argue it doesn’t, and it would require some form of pop-up or something that the user would agree to before using the service to apply. This is typically done when creating an account, but I use YouTube without an acocunt, and YouTube never prompts me to agree to any form of TOS. So the layperson’s understanding here is that the content is fine to access over their app using the tools available in their app, and that any extensions in my browser should be fine since there’s no reason to suspect that they wouldn’t be (again, no TOS or measures on the website to prevent or discourage their use).

                    So the strongest argument is the legal definition 2b. There, that’s the type of rebuttal I was expecting you to make, and I went ahead and did that for you, as well as providing my own rebuttal to that argument. I could cite a bunch of prior art as well (e.g. DVRs, which were totally legal when they were common), but I’m guessing you’re not interested in having that discussion given your comments.

                    And no, I’m not autistic. I just prefer to have constructive discussions, and I’m not afraid of putting in some work to have them. It seems you are here for a different reason.

                    TL;DR - According to the common definition of piracy, blocking ads doesn’t apply. According to the legal definition, blocking ads could apply, but that depends on whether the TOS applies and is legally enforceable.