I lean toward “efficient entertainment”, but I do sometimes wonder what that chunk of my free time would look like otherwise.

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    3 months ago

    What this meme is really saying is “the main issue with video games is you aren’t developing skills that can serve capitalistic interests via monetization of hobbies”

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      3 months ago

      Normally I would agree, but the deeper implication is contributing meaningful additions to collective human knowledge, and I kinda agree from an objectivist standpoint.

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        3 months ago

        (disclaimer: OP was more clear than I initially read it and maybe my original comment doesn’t hold up in reference to it. I’m just replying in reference to the bigger concept and it’s so long because I’m procrastinating pretty hard right now. I wanted to be clear that I’m not upset or anything, just putting off cleaning lol)

        Hobbies shouldn’t have to be “productive,” whether financially or otherwise. Who is to gauge what counts as meaningful anyway? Not everybody can contribute “meaningful additions to collective human knowledge,” especially now. The bar to do so is so much higher than it was in 1820.

        While Hypothetical German Lad could go collect beetles and have it be counted as a meaningful contribution as implied, I would have to (realistically, barring some 1 in a million happenstance) need a lab or something to make some big much wow discovery/contribution. If I went outside and collected beetles today, while it would count as a hobby, it wouldn’t be the contribution being implied here, I’d just be a bug collector. Mildly interesting, but no more productive than making some progress in Baldur’s Gate or doodling or whatever else menial pasttime.

        I’m not interested in watching people play video games myself, but I’d argue it’s a productive hobby if it brings joy or information to others. In regards to OP: A 26 part youtube series about how to get all the rings in every sonic game is going to be useful to people trying to get all the rings in Sonic Generations or whatever entry they’re playing. There being 26 parts means they know that’s going to be a resource they can come back to when they boot up Sonic 8: The Ocho later. It’s still an addition to collective knowledge, just not all knowledge is deep cosmic understanding. I can have the knowledge of how to reach Burger King from work, bestow that knowledge upon a new coworker, but yknow nobody is going to write a book about me for it and that’s ok!

        The world sucks right now and people are struggling, let folks have their silly hobbies without having to justify them. 🤷

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        Agreed. It’s like how Emperor Hirohito did very important work.

        Not the war. He spent the later half of his life meticulously collecting baseline data as a (rich and connected) marine biologist. It’s not exactly glamorous, but that data is a significant data point on how Climate Change is affecting ocean life. It’s a lot more pointed than “I swear there used to be more fireflies”.

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      3 months ago

      I love video games, but creating content for a publically traded brand to post on an advertising company’s streaming platform is inherently more serving of capitalism than documenting bugs.

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        That’s not a “video game” issue though, it’s a social media issue. Re-reading OP, it is more clear than I initially read it as (when I made this comment I felt it didn’t make up it’s mind who it’s swinging at, gamers or ‘streamers,’) so in context of the image you’re right.

        However, I stand by my bigger point of “fuck shaming ‘unproductive’ hobbies.” Let people find their dopamine where they can find it so long as it isn’t bothering anyone.

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          Agreed with your modification. Being “productive,” especially in anticapitaliste ways may be laudable, but no one needs you to prove your right to exist