• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      But there’s nothing inherent about that. If society had deemed that wearing a tarp and smelling of fish was fashionable, then they would do that for themselves.

      So let’s change society so that “nice things” are less shit for the world.

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        17 hours ago

        I feel like there needs to be a name for this fallacy. The one where you say “society did X, and I don’t like it, so we shouldn’t do X!” As if you can just decree it and make it so, despite the fact that all social constructs are enourmously complicated and deeply ingrained in a culture.

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          4 hours ago

          The raindrop effect.

          No raindrop thinks itself responsible for the flood. But they are. And if enough of us tiny bits pull in a direction, we can move society. But it won’t seem like it until enough of us do, and then BAM, magically it floods.

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            1 hour ago

            I was thinking more of Chestertons Fence - you fuck with something you don’t understand, so it blows up in your face and everyone is worse off because you didn’t understand the long term implications of your actions.

      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Well yeah they used to. I’m sure ancient women liked their men coming home bloody and covered in hair.

        There was a time when not a single man wanted anything to do with a thin woman.

        It’s always changing. We want to look good for ourselves and each other, and we use what we ourselves perceive as attractive. We all wanna get banged and we all wanna look hot. As someone who has been around a while don’t worry, it has gotten better. Even back to the 80s look at how much people used to peacock, now half of us are wearing Mom jeans and track pants. As you get older you start to give less of a shit about all that stuff.

        Gen z doesn’t seem as interested in all that stuff which is nice. I notice their generation is more chill than ours, they rather code and stream than go to parties like my generation did