• HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Tho I support gun ownership, this guy has no business owning a gun

    “If you are a [in my perception] a communist, you don’t wanna step on my lawn” === “If I don’t agree with you, I’ll shoot you”

    Plus anyone saying “communist states” is definetly fallen victim of right wing propaganda and haven’t even take the time to research what communisim is. Even the US left political wing is quite capitalisitic.

    Just a bunch of bad “arguments” bagged up with slapsticks words which he doesn’t even know the meaning of.

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        Open software is considered by many a modern example of a anachists-communist project.

        The dude is just spewing what he belives to be truth without any regard for the concepts he is actually talking about. Even me supporting both FOSS and gun ownership I belive the whole video should be regard as misinformation/misrepresentation at the very least, propaganda in reality.

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      I tend to disagree for following reasons:

      - freedom ends where someone elses freedom begins

      - no one said freedom was save

      - people don’t stop to murder other people without guns

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        As a rule of thumb people stop to mass murder other people, without guns. With extremely rare exceptions, we don’t have that shit outside of the US and our schools are not shooting ranges.

        The other two things you wrote are not reasons, they are a) a slogan that you could put on a 12 years old t shirt and b) something someone who is having a heart attack might say

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        Its a joke, don’t think too hard about it.

        Freedom as a concept is to vague and personal to be useful any kind of real discussion; “freedom” means whatever you think it means. This is why politicians love to say it.

        I would say that you’re right guns make people feel safe.

        However, that the constant threat of violence in society leads to degradation of social norms, especially for children who then get less socialization and become more extreme.

        You see this in like more people choosing to homeschool their kids - they then get lower quality education and poorer social skills and are less able to survive in society. In a capitalist world, this is slowly eating away the ability of americans to compete in a global economy and so there is a strong movement to isolate our economy which will only make us less competitive.

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          I would say that you’re right guns make people feel safe.

          I just wanted to say that guns absolutely do not make me feel safe, knowing one is nearby or seeing one makes me incredibly anxious. Holding one even more so. I don’t understand how people can feel safe around them, to me it’s like having a ticking time bomb in the room but the timer was set by a rng.

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            That’s fine if you feel like that. And YOU should stay away from them and I fully support your desires and rights to do so. But others don’t feel the same.

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        Empty words from someone that does not understand how countries with less guns still work and don’t have CHILDREN KILLING IN THEIR SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME

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          Sweden and Canada have pretty high rates of gun ownership and don’t have this problem. That said American school shootings are not as common as they are made out to be, there has been a lot of statistical fudging to make it look so much worse than it is.

          What all three countries do have are problems with gangs and they’re only getting worse as poverty drives people to crime. America has it worse because it has more poverty, but we will all catch up soon enough.

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            School shootings aren’t a gang problem, and school shootings are way more common in the US than any other developed country.

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    And here my friends, we can see an exhibit from the United States of America.

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        I think the topic is not so much “gun folks”, but more the idea that the US 2nd amendment right equates with all freedoms.

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      I wonder if the pentagon has ran a simulation to quantify how many guns exactly.

      Like hey, if x million of this class of people get armed, it would make things x levels of difficult to quash.

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      Well, that’s hard to do when your government are the only ones with guns and power.

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        Innocent lives lost due to “law abiding citizens” mishandling guns: a metric shit ton

        Corrupt governments toppled by gun lovers: 0

        The thought of how many people might be stocking ammo and thinking to use out if their favorite politician loses makes me happy for having an ocean between me and them.

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          Corrupt governments toppled by gun lovers: 0

          LOL someone needs a history lesson.

          It’s no surprise that virtually every deeply corrupt and genocidal government starts with banning and confiscating weapons.

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            Ahh, the typical Reddit old tradition of vague statement of knowledge with no meat to not be rebutted. Had hoped that didn’t reach Lemmy.

            Lightning round. Russia? Ha! China? Ha! North Korea? Japan? Ha! Netherlands? Hahahaha

            USA…? Hahahahahahhahahhaha

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              The US might prove true if you include gun nuts toppling their own government by voting for fascist scum.

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          What about the innocent lives lost because they didn’t have a gun? You think everyone can fight with their bare hands or a knife?

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            Who do you even need to fight bro? If I was say getting mugged I would give them all my valuables save a 10 % tip that I could give them when I was allowed to run the hell away from there. Do not be a stupid macho idiot. Be a smart coward without neither a wallet, gun nor a fatal wound.

            Jokes aside, the main uptick is the smaller chance of someone less mentally stable than you with less to lose also having a gun.

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    Remember: Always replace EagleOS on your SmartGun with Linux to avoid the NRA’s telemetry.

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    You do know there are left wing people out there who own guns and go to the range, right? Because when them nationalists show up in their leather boots, knocking on doors, they won’t give a damn if you’re a pacificist. They gonna go pop-pop-pop.

    Learn from the black panthers. If proliferation of guns is the standard, abstaining will only make you - and your children - a juicier target.

    But, even if you’re anti-guns, there’s one more thing.

    One talking point you could use with pro-gun people though, even if you’re anti-gun…

    “So let me get this straight… you’re against the government taking away your guns, but for the government taking away your encryption?”

    Say it with me now:

    THE RIGHT TO ENCRYPT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

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      US is a great example that guns dont stop guns. they just turn escalations into dice rolls for who gets to die

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        You obviously need a gun with the same caliber bullet to stop an incoming gun shot. Have you not even read Newton’s laws of motion?

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    I watched the video. He says that if you support FOSS you should support guns, but never once advocates for guns to be free.

    He says the problem is that politics are tribal, and people are simply in their corner, cheering for their teams - without acknowledging that there are Americans that want different levels of gun control, and there are reasons that people want gun control outside of tribal politics, and there are Republicans/conservatives/gun enthusiasts that have nuanced opinions, and support things like red flag laws and certain gun control policies.

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      He’s a troll trump supporter, which is all anyone needs to know. If there are 9 regular people at a table and a nazi sits down, and all that.

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    I knew something was off, I never really could watch his channel for some reason. This is one more hint that my intuition wasn’t wrong.