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  • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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    Asked my nephew who joined the Marines about this. He said this is a “hot tray”. Basically just leftovers for the people that couldn’t make it to meal time for various reasons (his example was 2 people who had to guard their gear while everyone else eats) so they make a tray of whatever is available for them when they’re allowed to go eat.

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    5 days ago

    I mean, when you literally sign up to be cannon fodder, I don’t know what you expect. America has always treated troops and veterans like livestock. You could simply choose a career other than oppressing the third world for oil profits.

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    Oh, no, the volunteer soldiers who are willingly taking orders from pedophiles and Nazis aren’t feeling COMFY and eating gourmet food???

    Fuck’em. This is better than they deserve.

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    Lots of people arguing about this in the comments, but I’m glad there’s so many people defending the position that it’s ok to do bad things if you’re poor, because that’s exactly my position. I wasn’t in the military, though, no.

    I was the guy that trafficked kids to Epstein’s Island.

    I don’t talk about it a lot because most of the time people judge me pretty harshly for it. You wouldn’t believe how many dates have walked out on me the moment I drop what I used to do for a living. I mean, look, I’m not a pedophile myself. Most of the guys I was working for were just desperate and in it for the money. I don’t support what the guys in Washington decided to pay me for. Blame them, not me.

    What was I supposed to do, work in a warehouse or a grocery store or something? What am I, some kind of chump? Fuck that. With the money I made duct taping children’s mouths shut and throwing them into my trunk, I managed to earn enough money to put myself through college, and finally persue my real passion.

    That’s right. Now I’m finally able to persue a dual major in Moral Philosophy and Women’s Studies. Also, funny coincidence, I’m a TA and I’m actually teaching one of the girls I met in my previous line of work about feminism. What a funny little coincidence!

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    what do soldiers fighting a cruel and meaningless war expect luxury meals?

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    5 days ago

    The latest Chinese propaganda has been posting pictures of their aircraft carrier meals.

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        @Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml, what hath thou wrought? They also often repeat, “you’re losing and you know it.”

        These are cringey and unproductive no matter who they come from.

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          You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration and got trapped doing this kind of shit?

          Its not like you can just quit, you usually do jail time.

          And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?

          Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.

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            You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration and got trapped doing this kind of shit?

            What, when we were occupying Afghanistan for 20 years and slaughtering hundreds of thousands of civilians? What on earth makes you think I only hate them because of who the president is?

            Its not like you can just quit, you usually do jail time.

            Tough shit. A person threatening you with jail time does not justify committing murder.

            And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?

            Even if they have to, they’d be no worse off than the families of the people they kill. Although, I suppose they often kill the families too, so kind of a bad example.

            Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.

            This may be a difficult concept to grasp, but human beings have agency which means that if someone tells you to do something, you don’t actually have to do it, because you are not a robot.

              • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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                5 days ago

                Links for what info? Do you need a source for the fact that there was decades-long occupation of Afghanistan? Have you been living under a rock?

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                  I’d you’re not going to link any info at all, why do you keep replying? I’m literally asking and everyone just downvotes me like I kicked their dog rather than proving any source.

          • J4g2F@lemmy.ml
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            You saying they joined before a administration did war crimes? So they joined before July 4, 1776?

            Trump is worse, yeah of course. But there is no living USA president that shouldn’t be send to den hauge

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              I’m not saying any of that, I’m asking why soldiers deserve to eat trash food. No one can explain it, they just say “they deserve it”

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            5 days ago

            The US military has been like this for decades though. You could argue ignorance, but at some point you have to take some personal responsibility for your actions.

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            No. I never heard this apologia when talking about russian soldiers. I am pretty sure the consequence for refusing to serve is a lot higher than in the USA

          • Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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            You don’t think some members may have joined before this administration

            Oh? Which administration do you claim it was fine to join during?

            Its not like you can just quit

            They can always quit, unless they are cowards .

            And if they have a family, are they supposed to just abandon them?

            Why are you not as concerned about the families in the receiving end of their invasions?

            Help me understand why it’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit with very little recourse.

            Why did they follow up on doing what they were told about signing up to murder foreign kids?

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            The last time the US military did anything not evil was WWII and that was not really by choice. It’s their fault they were told to do stupid shit because they have at least three generations of murder as examples they could have looked at.

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              US straight up turned away diaspora Jews who fled Hitler. Soviets let them in, even tired to warn western countries like UK and so on but The West was ready to let Hitler destroy and conquer Europe so they could be turned on the Communists. The USSR foiled that plan.

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              This is not even true . Fire bombing of tokyo and the two nuclear bomb are in the top worst terrorist attacks

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                Yeah no, I completely agree they still did loads of very evil stuff, it’s just the last time that they did any thing that was somehow helpful

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        They’re bombing my home country. People don’t generally root for the people who are murdering little girls where they come from. There are 5000 less Iranians in the world because of them.

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    An army recruiter came to my extremely poor elementary school, and could basically say anything to us kids. Told us that if we joined the army you can get whatever food you want, at all, from the mess hall and a chef will cook it for you. And yes, being able to get food was a motivating factor for some of us.

    I asked if you could get eggs Benedict every day if you asked for it. He looked a little nonplused, then said “oh yeah sure! Every day!”

    I knew at that point he was full of it and told him so.

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      The rich school near me had the same thing. Navy medic came in to describe how amazing the navy treats you. Definitely not a recruiter, though. Made very clear up front that he wasn’t there recruiting. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

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      6 days ago

      Army recruiter in elementary school? Wtf? Just when you think lemmy already showed you what it’s like over there… From “it sucks” to starship troopers’s shit level.

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      I will say, that experience varies wildly by branch, and even chow hall to chow hall within a branch. I was in the Marines, and the “new” chow hall on Pendleton mainside (they opened it about a year after I got there, but that was 15 years ago now) was really pretty good. Solid breakfast burrito line, an omelet station where you could get real eggs, etc. Lunch and dinner had a few options, and a panini bar.

      The chow hall we had before that one opened was a dump.

      But then, I went TDY to an Air Force base. And let me tell you, that was better than most restaurants I’ve been to.

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        If the Air Force had to eat at marine corps chow halls until they could pass a DoD audit, they would pass on a month.

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        I knew this post was going to end on an Air Force story when I read “varies wildly by branch”.

      • agent_nycto@lemmy.world
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        He didn’t like his ruse exposed but tried to play it off and change the subject. The teacher was amused though

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    5 days ago

    Mildly infuriating? The coward butchers in the us military deserve every humiliation and degradation they can get.

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      While I get what you’re meaning, I am going to ask a question: do you treat criminals the same?

      The way you see military, many of whom are from low income without many means of survival, as monsters because they join a government system that promises social services that harms so many. So a means to an end.

      A criminal will steal or murder for similar reasons a person joins the military - except instead of social services, they’re taking what they need to survive. So do you think they deserve humiliation and degradation? Heck, prison food is similar.

      Both are forced into making morally wrong choices that affect others outside of themselves but instead of anger at the system that creates these situations, you insult the people. It’s reactionary.

      This from someone who knows multiple leftists who changed because of the military. So I see belittling them online as counterproductive to any type of coalition being made as it separates them from others who may hold similar if not the same beliefs.

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        Honestly, the pics I’ve seen of USA school food were worse. Which kinda tracks; I’m sure they value soldiers higher than children.

        Above I see full grain rice and a variety of protein sources, if industrially produced. Salad is missing of course but that would be too much to ask Ig

        edit: I have heard that it varies. Both the pics in this post and the posts I’ve seen are anecdotal but not isolated outliers either.

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          School food in the US is highly variable. Each individual school district sets food contracts, and there are over 13,000 districts. That said, many of them have very bad food, especially any district contracting with Sodexo is going to have awful food. But a lot of us make lunch for our kids to bring every day either way

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            My boys have packed for probably 2-4/5 days forever. They ALWAYS buy on Friday as apparently get a treat - ice cream bars, etc. And, cannot just buy the treat… Mostly they take leftovers. Occasionally (maybe once a week or so?) sandwiches - PBJ, or whatever delimeat we have.

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          As @protist@retrofed.com just mentioned, it varies greatly.

          The lunch at my kids school today is:

          • Crispy chicken sandwich
          • Tater tots or French fries
          • Assorted chilled fruits (from local farms, usually blueberries, strawberries, cranberries, peaches, and apples)
          • Choice of veggies: pickles, cole slaw, or cucumber salad
          • Milk (1%, fat free, fat free chocolate, soy, almond)

          Each of those gets a swap option (not as much variety here given what it is) for allergies and preferences (such as vegan options).

          It would be really hard to try and make me consider that worse than what I just looked at.

          Edit: Full disclosure, our kids bring their lunch every day, on Fridays they can get an extra treat like cookies or something from there though). My wife makes bread fresh, we get our produce from the local farms too as well as growing a few things ourselves, etc.

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          Speak for your terrible school district. Mine growing up, and my kid’s today, had magnitudes better food than this slop.

          Prison food tho, you’re on the mark based on what I’ve heard from my buddy and my brother from the time they spent back there.

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      The company that ran my alma mater’s cafeteria also served kitchens. The food plan my college had selected was the one below what they serve in prison…

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    Good fuck em. Why would you ever join the military? I don’t care if you’re stupid and poor, I’m stupid and poor, I’d never join that dumb shithead factory

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        Like killing brown kids and upholding an imperial empire run by pedophiles?

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        Like what?

        And before you say free ride through college, let me head that off - it’s not free if it comes at the cost of human life being churned through the endless war machine.

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          You do realize the military keeps out foreign invaders right? So you can wake up in a non war zone?

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            Bullshit nobody is going to invade the USA when it has nukes. The American army is a terrorist army serving imperialism