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  • I was equivocating singular words and entire sentences on purpose.

    If you can recombine sentences in interesting ways, into paragraphs that are your own ideas, that isn’t plagiarism. Why would “people can’t construct unique sentences either” be a rebuttal if that’s not what plagiarsm is?

    Instead it studies the prior work of humans, finds patterns and combines these in unique and novel ways.

    You’re anthropomorphising.

    LLMs are little clink-clink machines that produce the most typical output. That’s how they’re trained. Ten thousand inputs say this image is of a streetlight? That’s how it knows.

    The fact an LLM knows what a Lord of Rings is at all means that Tolkien’s words, the images, the sounds, are all encoded in its weights somewhere. You can’t see them, it’s a black box, but they live there.

    Could you say the same of the human brain? Sure. I know what a neuron is.

    But, LLMs are not people.

    All of that is besides the point, though. I was just floored by how cynical you could be about your own supposed craft.

    A photograph of, say, a pretty flower is fantastic. As an enjoyer of art myself, I love it when people communicate things. People can share in the beauty that you saw. They can talk about it. Talk about how the colors and the framing make them feel. But if you’re view is that you’re not actually adding anything, you’re just doing more of what already exists, I really don’t know why you bother.

    Nobody has seen every photo in the world.

    Okay, assume someone has. Is your art meaningless, then? All of photography is just spectacle, and all the spectacles have been seen?


  • it doesn’t mean you can’t combine them in a unique ways

    Okay, so you don’t believe new things can’t be unique. You just think that plagiarism is when one person uses the word ‘the’ and then a second person uses the word ‘the’.

    Why do you find it such a depressing idea?

    That art is dead? Through sheer saturation alone, no one has anything left to say? That watching the new Cinderella is line-by-line the same as watching the old Cinderella, and the money machine keeps this corpse moving along only because people are too stupid to realize they’re being sold books from a library? I really don’t know how you couldn’t.

    This is like asking me why a polluted lake is sad.



  • I’d argue it’s virtually impossible to write a sentence that has not been written before

    I mean this sincerely: why bother getting excited about anything, then?

    A new Marvel movie, a new game, a new book, a new song. If none of them are unique in any way, what is the point of it all? Why have generative AI go through this song and dance? Why have people do it? Why waste everyone’s time?

    If the plagiarism engine is acceptable because it’s not possible to be unique anyway… I just, I don’t know how you go on living. It all sounds so unbelievably boring.




  • Arguing why it’s bad for society for machines to mechanise the production of works inspired by others is more to the point.

    I agree, but the fact that shills for this technology are also wrong about it is at least interesting.

    Rhetorically speaking, I don’t know if that’s useless.

    I don’t care why they’re different, or that it technically did or didn’t violate the “free swim” policy,

    I do like this point a lot.

    If they can find a way to do and use the cool stuff without making things worse, they should focus on that.

    I do miss when the likes of cleverbot was just a fun novelty on the Internet.