China, Russia? The former Yugaslavia? Quite recently Albania. Maybe the people who day capitalism is the root go all evil should visit some museums there.

If you replace capitalism in that sentence with another ism you still have the same results.

Ease of setup in exchange for google/amazon spies in your house and your data. Seems like a very bad deal to me.

It’s really not that hard to setup for a basic setup and after that it’s working problem free with all kinds of manufacturers devices, not just one brand.

Haha are you me?!

I’ve just got a Landrover Defender 2023 (75th) and was so glad is just had buttons for everything. I had a touch screen but other than navigation no need to touch it. Even optional analog dials instead of digital.

Was looking at the van equivalent of the new mercedes (v-class) but same ipad horror on the inside. Glad some brand are reversing this silly phase.

And was long time BMW driver before that but I quit 5 series before electric and the hideous grills. Such a shame.