挂路灯人

Please don’t lecture me on your semantics

I didn’t. Pointing out you have been spreading political messaging in your history (spreading propaganda) isn’t semantics.

Then every word that comes out of my mouth is propaganda?

When did I say that? I understand debateperverts such as yourself can’t help but build strawmen but it’s really annoying and only signals to everyone you don’t have the intelligence to actually respond to the point at hand I hope you know that.

Let me be more specific then: your political propaganda simplified through memes.

English isn’t my first language, I don’t really know what you’re trying to say with this. (Given the rest of your comment it’s probably idiotic so I’m mostly ok with that).

Do I promote political opinions? Yes

So you engage in propaganda, thank you for that admission.

Do I using a f’ing meme sub to do so? No.

Makes zero difference, what a weird place to draw the line in the sand, especially given that for all intents and purposes this is a political memes community.

This is what I was complaining about

It’s an idiotic and hypocritical thing to complain about.

Lemmy is becoming more and more of a ideological battlefield rather than a place to get together to have a good time

I know that like myself many people from outside your imperial core bubble don’t want to/can’t have a good time with privileged Euro-amerikans such as yourself who feel happy talking down on us, our countries, etc. while you parott nonsense propaganda with maximum confidence but 0 real knowledge. You must be too used to your Reddit hugbox where you were the majority and never had to do any reflection. You are the problem.

A quick hop and a skip from US-centrism to Euro-centrism doesn’t really salvage the fact that liberal is still widely used around the world to describe those who adhere to liberalism, the hegemonic political-economic ideology of the west.

Social-Democracy despite its name is in the modern age simply another form of liberalism.

American centric much.

Liberals are pro capitalism (sometimes with minor treats or reforms for their ingroup). Democrats, Republicans, Social Democrats, Greens etc. all liberals.

Great. I also don’t love any country having nukes, so there’s already two of us.

I think it has been proven repeatedly by the US that if you wish to truly be sovereign nukes are non-negotiable which is a great tragedy. (Libya, Venezuela, Iraq, Yemen, etc.)

I was well aware that your point was not about Iran, that’s why I made the cynical counterpoint I made.

Your cynical counterpoint was still stupid as it was about a related but entirely different situation. A country having nukes and being able to bypass MAD are 2 vastly different scenarios.

As for your second paragraph it’s all irrelevant to the point at hand which is that if there is a risk of a country (especially one with a history of attempting to) bypassing MAD against you frustrating that attempt by any means necessary is the logical step to take.

Ukraine did have nuclear weapons and gave them up only under broad guarantees of continued independence… so… yeah.

I wonder what country has a history of not only using nuclear weapons but using “allied” (vassal nations) on the borders of competing nations to host their arsenal to threaten first strike capability. Might want to look into what actually caused the “Cuban” missile crisis. American nukes in Turkey threating first strike capability and the breakdown of MAD.

Also your Iran strawman was fucking stupid and I shouldn’t have bothered responding to it. It was completely unrelated to what I said, even if Iran developed nuclear weapons they wouldn’t have first strike capability on the US so it isn’t relevant to doing whatever necessary to frustrate those attempting to destroy MAD by achieving first strike capability.

so… yeah…

Also also pointing out what is logical for a force to do in the face of certain situations doesn’t mean I support it and especially doesn’t mean I generally support any other force taking related but different actions. Really reminding me why I hate deabtebros.

I wish I knew as little as you about world events. Iran had a fatwa against nuclear weapons the idea of them trying to make them was as true as Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

The best way to avoid being nuked is to ensure those interested in nuking you don’t have first strike capabilities no matter the cost.

just multiple numbers and blacklists for specific things, so what?

Literally one blacklist for people/businesses who default on credit that stops them buying luxuries until they settle their debts.

You claim to be against propaganda yet you spread propaganda in your comment history. Might be worth doing some reflection.

Plenty of “pro-palestinians” around who condemn hamas and the rest of the resistance groups or call them terrorists etc.

And now dehumanisation wow. For a third time I have to ask have you considered following your leader?

You. Insufferable Hitlerite Reddit dorks I spelled it out pretty clearly last comment are you illiterate on top of everything else? (Rhetorical question answer is obviously yes)

You are.

Insufferable Hitlerite Reddit dork isn’t a race or ethnicity.

Always the same with you people. You’re no better than MAGA racists I hope you know that. Have to ask again being that you are so clearly Hitlerite have you considered following your leader?

Wow racism too. I knew you were Hitlerite but to be so open very brave of you. Have you considered following your leader?

Dork

Fuck off

Sorry I don’t speak insufferable Reddit dork you’ll have to translate it or fuck off.

It’s a bit too wordy imo to be an effective stand in for “fuck off” imo lacks flow and rhythm.