I like your ideas, they would be a better replacement than just “installing”.

It is, but sadly I don’t think Android Authority and other publications will be convinced. We should still try though.

I said in my first comment it would have to be “installing from outside the Play store”, otherwise it wouldn’t have clear meaning.

Yeah exactly, and we reached all the way back to my original comment: you can’t just replace “sideloading” with “installing”, without adding additional clarification.

I’d just call all of that “installing”, “sideloading” doesn’t really make sense here. Importantly you already specified how you installed in each case, so it’s perfectly understandable whatever verb you use.

Correct, but what do you propose? In your terminology installing from the Play Store is “sideloading” and installing directly is “installing”. But surely you agree that if an article was titled “Google makes installing apps on Android harder, but sideloading will be as smooth as before”, everyone would understand the opposite of that.

Yes that’s what I’m saying, it’s “installing” regardless of where you get the app, so if an article wants to talk about something concerning installing apps from outside the Play Store, they can’t just say “installing”. That would be incorrect if the things they talk about don’t concern installing from the Play Store.

So you need a different description than just “installing”.

E.g. in this example the article title couldn’t be “installing changes are next”, it would need to be something else.

“Installing” is not a drop-in replacement for “sideloading” without changing the meaning of what you say.

Yeah, but installing from the Play Store is also installing, and “sideloading” is shorter than “installing from outside the Play store”, so I’m not sure this is a winnable fight.

Legitimate criticism aside, I found it funny they underlined “receive data from internet” among the other scary permissions.

That’s the one thing a news app presumably should be doing

Which is?

Believe it or not, you can do two things at once. Some people are interested in space, some in geology. That’s fine.

But the only times you hear of them is when people are trying to get more folk implied

Yes, and that’s plain old recrutiment/advertising of their cause. Proselytization refers to trying to convert someone to a religion, which they don’t do.

It’s much closer to putting up advertisement against advertisement.

Correct.

That’s not true. It’s a bunch of for-profit organizations coupled with a recognized nonprofit

Yes, so an NGO. Where did I say they are a non-profit?

We don’t like religious symbols in public space, so let’s put more of these, yay!

Yeah, they try to put non-religious things instead like cool Dante’s inferno statues. End result is that the religious symbols are banned, or if they aren’t, that there are other non-religious symbols around them. As much as they are a religion legally, they are atheists and their symbols are not religious, just fancy branding.

Proselytism is bad, so we need to recruit more people to fight it.

Yeah, what’s weird about that? Fire is bad so we need to recruit more firefighters to fight it. TST does not proselytize, as they don’t try to convert you into any religion. The are just an NGO.

But agnostics don’t believe in the existence of a deity. Are you maybe confusing it with deism?

And then after doing all that you still need to confirm a scary warning every single time you install an app. As if it wasn’t enough.

The video game Eve Online, a game about spaceships, had a screen listing all spaceships in the game and their stats.

It went by it’s acronym, which stood for Interbus Ship Identification System.

It had since been renamed.

But imagine the outrage if a terrorist group actually marked their payments like this – maybe the day before their suicide attack – with the thought that what does it matter anyway they won’t be here to be investigated.

And the bank didn’t investigate. The bank would be fined to hell and back and lose all trust, because they couldn’t do “the bare minimum” in finding something this obvious.

Yeah, and currently you don’t need to know what an apk is to install them.

A VPN to me is a way to prevent my ISP from seeing I torrent and to go around geoblocks. It’s not a privacy tool at all. So yeah, I’m evaluating them from that angle.

From what angle is it easy to do?

• Enable developer mode (using a hidden process where you have to know where to find it)
• Go through a scary form
• Restart the device
• Wait 24 hours?!
• Go to the settings again
• Do some more scary confirmations
• Check another scary checkbox
• And then… confirm again every single time you install an app

And you are telling me it’s easy to do? I can go publish a diet tracking app and Aunt Flo will happily go through this and I won’t lose customers?