All he ever did was try to do the right thing and generally his reward was watching the people he loved get killed or people he trusted rise to power and betray him/leave him in the dust.

I’m not saying what he did was OK, but that bitterness festered over a very long period and over many events. Not to mention this all started with the genocide of the human race, which I imagine is going to take a bit of a mental toll on someone lol

Life’s complicated. That’s what made his arc so tragic and good

I thought Gaeta was the one holding off the cylons from breaking into the system

Gaeta (sp?) did a damn good job all things considered

Gotta do it eventually dude or this will be our grave.

It’s strange to me that you can have the foresight to see the existential threat that is climate change, but not the risk of having all of our eggs in one basket.

You’ve also moved the goalposts. Your original argument was that they pollute so much and use so many finite resources that they’re bad. Is this no longer your argument?

You’re never going to convince me that space exploration is something we should stop.

You’re missing the forest for the trees and way over estimating how much pollution rocket launches put out.

We have to leave the planet, which means we need to practice so to speak, and those rockets are the only way we are going to get out there right now. The pollution produced by them is well worth it.

lol yeah I guess

Rocket launches are not why climate change is occurring.

I am against Starlink just fyi

I’m not saying SpaceX isn’t without valid critiques, but if you don’t see the value of reusable rockets and can’t even give them credit for spearheading that, I’m not sure what else to say. Make no mistake I think Elon Musk is a bigoted piece of shit, but I can also acknowledge that SpaceX has done important work

I’m sure there are plenty of people who started at SpaceX before we all truly knew the monster musk is. Also, the work they are doing is incredibly important. It’s hard to give that up. It shouldn’t be this hard to empathize with people

Windows OS is not the product.

You could say that about any product or service. “They don’t charge for a steering wheel on your car it’s bundled in.” But that’s not a useful or meaningful distinction.

The issue here is windows famously charged until very recently (and still sort of does) which distinguishes it from those that don’t charge.

That’s not really a good description either. Advertisements are pretty clear: the deliberate promotion of a product or service to an audience. Saying “I like this app” in natural conversation doesn’t mean I don’t stand to benefit.

Microsoft is the only company that charges for an operating system so frankly I don’t understand why they feel entitled to that income anyway

This is absolutely you trying to head canon reality away. There is no way you will ever convince me George Lucas was that socially conscientious/nuanced in his storytelling. It’s not his style at all and he would’ve said something indicating this. He wasn’t thinking about the anti-vaccine movement and the ability to use media to gaslight the public in the 1970s/80s and 90’s/early 2000’s.

I blame Disney for a lot of decisions but that is not one of them. Lucas made them the generals for the Republic in the prequels. There is no way to argue they flew under the radar/were somewhat obscure after that. Throughout all the prequels they had an incredibly strongpresence/line of communication with the galactic government.

Shame too. It would be very cool to have a “I’ll believe it when I see it” culture more around it. That’s part of what makes Han’s arc so beautiful. At the end of a new hope he is “beginning to believe“ even if he has not suddenly a force wielder. He stops for a moment going against the grain all the time and embraces his humanity and allows the force to work through him to do good for good’s sake

Yeah they alternate between “everyone remembers” and the occasional “huh?”

It’s a very distracting inconsistency for me tbh

Let’s kind of refocus here because there are 3 things at play.

1: What do you think we need downvotes for, 2: do you think that’s how they’re being used, and 3: are there better tools to accomplish #1?

After that it’s an assessment of other potential cons.