Canceling a few actors, and Harvey Weinstein, has had no beneficial systemic effect on society or women.
A Walmart clerk who is sexually harassed by her supervisor is in no better position today than she was prior to MeToo
But a lot of rich white women got to receive social media attention from it. So that’s nice.
don’t excuse you inserting yourself into a conversation women are having about their
You seriously think that a meaningful percentage of Lemmy’s active users are women?
There are more trans/nb/etc users here than cis women.
Which means it’s impossible for them to insert themselves “into a conversation women are having”
The United States is a democracy only if oligarchies are democracies
The superstructure of society encourages dehumanization of black and brown and “foreign” men because they are seen as dangerous violent animals. This is a centuries old rhetorical ploy by the ruling class to subordinate the masses through fear. This meme contributes to and furthers such ideology
Did a single individual anti Semitic poster in 1934 Germany cause Dachau? Of course not. But that single individual poster was one of millions of contributing factors that caused the conditions that allowed for the Holocaust
We should recognize and denounce such hatred when we see it
No one can prove who created this meme - at least as far as I’m aware.
However, after it was created, it certainly has been boosted and magnified by right wing organizations and intelligence operations to cause the working class to turn on itself and dehumanize one another. Which is always what fascism does to distract from oligarchic wealth and societal decay.
This meme is evil. It isn’t funny or cute. It’s intentionally cancerous and we need to stop spreading such hate.
Because it isn’t white men in wealthy suburban communities who will suffer from this. Rather, it will be the black, brown, and migrant men who are already dehumanized and seen as superpredators.
After all, why was it so wrong for the police to murder George Floyd - he was more dangerous than a bear and (white) women were afraid of him. Given that, it seems that those hero cops acted in accordance with our society’s values, doesn’t it? Or, if we reject that notion, then we must also reject “memes” like this that further the dehumanization that leads to his murder
Hm I wonder if any right wing political parties have ever done this to dehumanize outgroups and promote fascism? 🤔
I wonder if anyone who is Muslim, Black, or Jewish has any thoughts on this history of such dehumanization and inaccurate perceptions 🤔
Consider what you just said about bears.
Now consider that any Evangelical Christian you tell that to is still likely to pick the bear than the strange Muslim who spouts statistics about bear attacks in order to be picked to spend time alone with her in the airport.
This discussion isn’t about statistics. The fact that an Evangelical Christian can tell you directly what she wants, and you can tell her she’s wrong because of xyz, is why it will always and forever be the bear.
The point is that women can also be bigots - including sexists. It’s benevolent misogyny to presume that they’re too weak and naive to do so
All men have a race and a national origin. When we dehumanize men and say that a vicious animal is safer than them, we are normalizing dehumanization and violence. Which, in the United States, will eventually lead to violence against men who are disproportionately black, brown, Muslim, and foreign born.
Which is partially why black men are murdered at such high rates - they aren’t seen as “people”, they’re seen as superpredators. And is also why it is easy to turn away refugees at the border - because they’re all soldiers in a migrant caravan coming to kill us. And is why Israel can claim they killed a dangerous Hamas terrorist when, in reality, all they did was murder a 12 year old boy.
When men are seen as inherently harmful and women are seen as inherently harmless, dehumanization and prejudicial violence occurs. This meme was astroturfed by right wing organizations to help accomplish that goal. We should reject it.
When a sex is demonized and dehumanized, eventually acts of “righteous” violence will ensue.
And what do you think the race and national origin will be of the majority of those victims?
Have you been paying attention for the last 8 years?
To all the men of color who keep getting disproportionately murdered and seen as superpredators? To all the white women who cross the street everytime they see a black man? To all the white mothers who refuse to send their kids to the public school because it’s too “”“dangerous”“”?
Yes I have noticed that.
Race is already part of it. When you dehumanize men you make it easier for cops to kill black men, and for Fox News to scare monger about men in migrant caravans, and for Israel to murder male children and claim they are Hamas terrorists.
Men are not weapons or superpredators. They are human beings. And this dehumanizing rhetoric furthers the goals of conservative and fascist actors - and will disproportionately harm men of color and immigrant men
You disagree that this “meme” furthers right wing xenophobia and racism? George Floyd likely disagrees. As do the innocent men that Fox News claims are coming to kill us in “migrant caravans.” It’s also this logic that allows Israel to get away with claiming they killed a Hamas fighter when they actually just murdered a 10 year old boy
It is not only men of color and immigrant men who are insulted, but they are the ones who will disproportionately suffer real life consequences from dehumanizing rhetoric such as this
Also if they’re white and domestically born, or are they black and foreign born.
Which is what this question is actually about - generating support for xenophobic and anti black policies
“Why would a man who is black/Muslim/immigrant be insulted over women claiming they would rather be with a dangerous wild animal than with him? How could that have any national policy implications?”
You seriously think women are equally afraid of white men as they are of black men, or Muslim men, or immigrant men?
The answer is no. Which is why right wing groups astroturfed this meme in the first place - to otherize minority groups and increase xenophobic policies. All under the name of protecting women/feminism
Which is what always happens - we need to protect our virginal women from the foreign hordes. Fascism has a pretty simple playbook
Plenty of white Christians are afraid of people who are black and/or Muslim. Accordingly they likely would prefer to encounter a bear rather than a person who is black or Muslim
Is that acceptable? After all, those white Christians likely just “have different experiences” than you or I. We should respect that, right?
Also, if men are scary and bad, then immigrant men are scary and bad. If immigrant men are scary and bad then we should stop “letting them in.” Aka, this entire rage bait is a right wing scheme to stigmatize immigrants and national minority groups by using “feminism” as a pretext
American is the norm here. Not everyone is American. But most are.
Weird that you take offense to that but don’t take offense to dehumanizing 50% of humanity
I agree with 1.
2 does not rebut what I said