Yeah we used to joke that if you wanted to sell a car with high-resolution LiDAR, the LiDAR sensor would cost as much as the car. I think others in this thread are conflating the price of other forms of LiDAR (usually sparse and low resolution, like that on 3D printers) with that of dense, high resolution LiDAR. However, the cost has definitely still come down.

I agree that perception models aren’t great at this task yet. IMO monodepth never produces reliable 3D point clouds, even though the depth maps and metrics look reasonable. MVS does better but is still prone to errors. I do wonder if any companies are considering depth completion with sparse LiDAR instead. The papers I’ve seen on this topic usually produce much more convincing pointclouds.

I think it’s been about a year? IIRC Intel only started using TSMC for their processors with Meteor Lake, which was released in late 2023.

I believe their discrete GPUs have been manufactured at TSMC for longer than that, though.

I use a lot of AI/DL-based tools in my personal life and hobbies. As a photographer, DL-based denoising means I can get better photos, especially in low light. DL-based deconvolution tools help to sharpen my astrophotos as well. The deep learning based subject tracking on my camera also helps me get more in focus shots of wildlife. As a birder, tools like Merlin BirdID’s audio recognition and image classification methods are helpful when I encounter a bird I don’t yet know how to identify.

I don’t typically use GenAI (LLMs, diffusion models) in my personal life, but Microsoft Copilot does help me write visualization scripts for my research. I can never remember the right methods for visualization libraries in Python, and Copilot/ChatGPT do a pretty good job at that.

There is no “artificial intelligence” so there are no use cases. None of the examples in this thread show any actual intelligence.

There certainly is (narrow) artificial intelligence. The examples in this thread are almost all deep learning models, which fall under ML, which in turn falls under the field of AI. They’re all artificial intelligence approaches, even if they aren’t artificial general intelligence, which more closely aligns with what a layperson thinks of when they say AI.

The problem with your characterization (showing “actual intelligence”) is that it’s super subjective. Historically, being able to play Go and to a lesser extent Chess at a professional level was considered to require intelligence. Now that algorithms can play these games, folks (even those in the field) no longer think they require intelligence and shift the goal posts. The same was said about many CV tasks like classification and segmentation until modern methods became very accurate.

I work in CV and a lot of labs I’ve worked with use consumer cards for workstations. If you don’t need the full 40+GB of VRAM you save a ton of money compared to the datacenter or workstation cards. A 4090 is approximately $1600 compared to $5000+ for an equivalently performing L40 (though with half the VRAM, obviously). The x090 series cards may be overpriced for gaming but they’re actually excellent in terms of bang per buck in comparison to the alternatives for DL tasks.

AI has certainly produced revenue streams. Don’t forget AI is not just generative AI. The computer vision in high end digital cameras is all deep learning based and gets people to buy the latest cameras, for an example.

GPU and overall firmware support is always better on x86 systems, so makes sense that you switched to that for your application. Performance is also usually better if you don’t explicitly need low power. In my use case I use the Orange Pi 5 Plus for running an astrophotography rig, so I needed something that was low power, could run Linux easily, had USB 3, reasonable single core performance, and preferably had the possibility of an upgradable A key WiFi card and a full speed NVMe E key slot for storage (preferably PCIe 3.0x4 or better). Having hardware serial ports was a plus too. x86 boxes would’ve been preferable but a lot of the cheaper stuff are older Intel mini PCs which have pretty poor battery life, and the newer power efficient stuff (N100 based) is more expensive and the cheaper ones I found tended to have onboard soldered WiFi cards unfortunately. Accordingly the Orange Pi 5 Plus ended up being my cheapest option that ticked all my boxes. If only software support was as good as x86!

Interesting to hear about the NPU. I work in CV and I’ve wondered how usable the NPU was. How did you integrate deep learning models with it? I presume there’s some conversion from runtime frameworks like ONNX to the NPU’s toolkit, but I’d love to learn more.

I’m also aware that Collabora has gotten the NPU drivers upstreamed, but I don’t know how NPUs are traditionally interfaced with on Linux.

A lot of the cheap tablet SoC vendors like Rockchip (whose SoCs end up in low cost SBCs) really only do the bare minimum when it comes to proper linux support. There’s usually next to no effort to upstreaming their patches so oftentimes you’re stuck on their vendor kernel. Luckily for the RK3588(S), Collabora has done a considerable amount of work on supporting the SoC and its peripherals upstream. I run my Orange Pi 5 Plus (RK3588) on a mainline kernel and it works for my needs.

This practice is a lot easier to defend for a low cost SoC compared to something as expensive as a Snapdragon Elite though…