I once pirated a book because I didn’t want to get it from another room.

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    3 days ago

    It definitely is, and I’ve done it several times.

    One example is Minecraft, which I legit bought but no longer legitimately own, because when Microsoft took over they forced people to make Microsoft accounts and no longer allow Mojang accounts to be used to authenticate. Because I didn’t make a Microsoft account, I no longer own the game, so now I play a pirated copy because I can no longer legitimately play it.

    Another example is some games made by studios that went bust and there’s no longer any legit distributor of the game, so the only copy you can download is a pirated copy.

    It’s still piracy if it circumvents the intended method of distribution and validation that you own a licence.

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      Piracy cannot happen if it’s fair use. And this is fair use (I’m referring to downloading a game you already own, not the thing about dead studios).

      Piracy is the intention/result, not the method. If you bought a video game, you own it and are allowed to own a backup of it. How you get that backup is irrelevant

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        In the first example, it is not fair use, because you don’t buy digital copies of games—you buy a licence to play the game. My Minecraft licence would have been revoked when I didn’t create a Microsoft account. Game companies can impose whatever conditions on a game licence they like (so long as the condition is not otherwise illegal).

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            Case law is specific to jurisdiction. I don’t know where you live, and I’ve not said where I live. The way buying and selling most digital copies of games is through buying and selling licences, though some software you do pay for the download itself rather than paying for a licence. That doesn’t require case law; that’s literally just what it is, like how if I sign a contract I don’t need case law to demonstrate that what I’ve signed is a contract, it just is. Case law adjudicates matters of law which are in dispute, not figuring out whether a spade is a spade.

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              23 hours ago

              Yeah just because you say “this is not in dispute,” doesn’t make it true. The reason there appears to be no dispute is because video game companies haven’t brought a suit against anyone for this specific thing. Until then, it’s nebulous and completely up for debate.

              Video game manufacturers have lost several emulation suits in the past, and I would not be one bit surprised if that’s the reason why they never tried to go after this in courts.

              Bleem! successfully won their countersuit against Sony because of fair use.

              It doesn’t hurt that there is this precedent regarding VHS:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios%2C_Inc.

              Until Nintendo or Sony, etc actually tries to sue someone for doing it, then it’s up for dispute.

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                20 hours ago

                What I’m saying is not in dispute is the fact that you buy licences to play games and that licences can be revoked. Both of those are objective fact. It’s a separate question as to whether or not a given state wants to enact punishment against a former licence holder.