I’m obviously going to be downvoted for this, but the second you ask me to use the terminal is the second the OS is not ready.
Last week I reinstalled Windows after trying MintOS. I have a 54" Ultrawide screen monitor and I wanted the windows to snap in 3 sections.
I spent a few hours in terminal trying to install something after trying everything in flatpak. Windows 11 split screens out of the box. It can even tile. You can even use hotkeys to snap left and right.
In order for normies like me to switch, you have to make the OS at as easy to use as Windows. Don’t make us use terminal like I’m on DOS.
The mass majority of normies don’t need to run PowerShell or debloat. A even bigger mass of people have no clue what telemetry is to even disable it. I think before we both disagree with each other, we should agree with one thing. Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.
Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.
KDE Snapping left and right is nice. Windows 7 has this feature. Maybe even Win98.
I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.
You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances. This is perfectly fine if we all acknowledge that Linux is not made for regular people and memes like this is actually harmful to your community. If someone has a misconception that Linux is now equal in feature sets and usability, this user is going to not try again for another 15 years.
Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.
Speed, privacy, old hardware support, benefits from community modifications (gaming performance kernels etc).
Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.
Yes
I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.
I still dont understand what you were trying to achieve that you couldn’t have done, at worst, in Synaptic package manager (a GUI program).
You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances.
I don’t mean to say you’re doing it intentionally, just that when you state Linux can’t do these things it’s not exactly correct.
Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.
Speed, privacy, old hardware support, benefits from community modifications (gaming performance kernels etc).
Speed is relative to the task. On my window’s machine, I’m running a 7 year old gaming computer and never thought that my computer is super slow. Also, after installing Mint on it, the speed is barely noticeable at best.
Old hardware support? Shoot, Mint could barely get new hardware working properly. I had trouble with both my nvidia card and my logitech steering wheel working correctly. I eventually got the Nvidia card working using chatgpt. It took me a few days, but the steering wheel finally started working after reinstalling Windows.
Also, as far as gaming is concerned. You performance might see a few fps faster on Linux on some games, but if you enjoy games like Rocket League or Fortnite or many multiplayer games, it flat out doesn’t work.
Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.
Yes
Good, I can check it out. Mint and PopOS and Ubuntu does not have this feature.
I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.
I still dont understand what you were trying to achieve that you couldn’t have done, at worst, in Synaptic package manager (a GUI program).
I’m trying to snap my windows to different ratios or tile out of the box. Mint, PopOS and Ubuntu does not have these features and I was trying to install it first from Flatpak and then in apt-get. Both failed.
You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances.
I don’t mean to say you’re doing it intentionally, just that when you state Linux can’t do these things it’s not exactly correct.
What is inaccurate? That I had a hard time trying to install a very basic feature on Mint and failed? Seems pretty straight forward.
Don’t get me started on installing Tailscale. While I was ultimately successful doing this in terminal, I would not want my mother in law trying to figure it out.
What are models of vehicles? What are different types of skiis? Shouldn’t just one book have all of human knowledge? I’m not assuming anything about Normie’s or anything, just telling you to try a different DE. Linux comes with options. You might want a sports car or you might want a truck. Before you buy a vehicle you look at what you want to do and then buy the right vehicle.
I guess when I’m expecting to have at least air conditioning instead of having my pick from thousands of different air conditioning systems from GitHub hoping it hasn’t been abandonware.
If I’m picking a specific system, I expect the engine to start when I turn the key, instead of a secret jiggle for it to work correctly.
Let’s be real for a second. A normie would appreciate that there is a login that have saved their favorites and how their desktop is setup. A normie would appreciate that it remembers they are giving you localized news and weather and traffic.
A normie does not put privacy that high as a priority than you.
Trying to suggest that Linux is now ready for normies is a disservice to normies that try it and will never try it again for another 15 years.
If you hand someone a computer and powered up terminal and ask them to install an app like Tailscale. Watch them struggle without searching a forum on how to do it.
A normie will have zero clue what is a app get. A normie won’t know you have to use a dash for app-get on some operating systems vs another one.
Watch them struggle without searching a forum on how to do it.
Wow, you mean someone wont know how to do something if they’ve never done it before and are forbidden from looking for help? Astounding, get a research team on this.
A normie won’t know you have to use a dash for app-get on some operating systems vs another one.
But a single search will return dozens of results of the correct answer and then they’ll know, because it isn’t actually difficult and your argument is based in “I don’t want to learn” dressed up as “it’s too hard”
A very solvable problem with window tiling managers. There’s unironically thousands of them.
Linux just honestly might not be for you if a terminal is an insurmountable obstacle 🤷♀️ it’s how you interact with the basics of your computer. It’s worth ripping that bandaid off and getting over your fear of term imo. I honestly prefer software I can just run from the terminal.
I don’t want thousands of solutions. I need 1 that works out of the box for the OS I just installed. Also, why are there thousands of tiling solutions? How do I parse through all of them to know which one to install? Out of the thousand of solutions, which one will become abandonware or already abandoned?
I don’t disagree with you. I’m 100% onboard with your assessment on someone like me. A normie.
The argument here is that this meme suggests that Linux wasn’t ready for normies 15 years ago and is ready now(2025). My argument is it is not. Normies do not use terminal. We want intuitive UX. We want a smart decision tree of options we can take. What we don’t want is entering a script in terminal that could fail because we forgot a dash or transcribe a forward slash to a backslash.
Also, what you consider “basic” is relative. Your knowledge of computers is vastly different across the world.
I had a forum member on Reddit call me an idiot because I didn’t know what sudo was. Does that make me “basic”?
I think you want KDE. I’m using KDE on vanilla EndeavourOS and it snaps windows just fine. Hotkeys work too, just slightly different (super + page up instead of up arrow to maximize).
I’m obviously going to be downvoted for this, but the second you ask me to use the terminal is the second the OS is not ready.
Last week I reinstalled Windows after trying MintOS. I have a 54" Ultrawide screen monitor and I wanted the windows to snap in 3 sections.
I spent a few hours in terminal trying to install something after trying everything in flatpak. Windows 11 split screens out of the box. It can even tile. You can even use hotkeys to snap left and right.
In order for normies like me to switch, you have to make the OS at as easy to use as Windows. Don’t make us use terminal like I’m on DOS.
Have you ever had to edit the registry?
I can’t find a single reason why I would need to. What am I missing?
Well then I suppose Windows is not ready if every update you need to run a PowerShell script to debloat and disable telemetry.
And you didn’t consider to use the graphical package manager which can do the same thing?
So can I, on KDE Plasma. Admittedly, I don’t know what the situation on Cinnamon is.
For non power user use-cases it is absolutely possible to use as easily as Windows.
Respectfully, please dont spread misinformation about what Linux is and is not capable of.
The mass majority of normies don’t need to run PowerShell or debloat. A even bigger mass of people have no clue what telemetry is to even disable it. I think before we both disagree with each other, we should agree with one thing. Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.
Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.
KDE Snapping left and right is nice. Windows 7 has this feature. Maybe even Win98.
I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.
You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances. This is perfectly fine if we all acknowledge that Linux is not made for regular people and memes like this is actually harmful to your community. If someone has a misconception that Linux is now equal in feature sets and usability, this user is going to not try again for another 15 years.
Speed, privacy, old hardware support, benefits from community modifications (gaming performance kernels etc).
Yes
I still dont understand what you were trying to achieve that you couldn’t have done, at worst, in Synaptic package manager (a GUI program).
I don’t mean to say you’re doing it intentionally, just that when you state Linux can’t do these things it’s not exactly correct.
Speed is relative to the task. On my window’s machine, I’m running a 7 year old gaming computer and never thought that my computer is super slow. Also, after installing Mint on it, the speed is barely noticeable at best.
Old hardware support? Shoot, Mint could barely get new hardware working properly. I had trouble with both my nvidia card and my logitech steering wheel working correctly. I eventually got the Nvidia card working using chatgpt. It took me a few days, but the steering wheel finally started working after reinstalling Windows.
Also, as far as gaming is concerned. You performance might see a few fps faster on Linux on some games, but if you enjoy games like Rocket League or Fortnite or many multiplayer games, it flat out doesn’t work.
Good, I can check it out. Mint and PopOS and Ubuntu does not have this feature.
I’m trying to snap my windows to different ratios or tile out of the box. Mint, PopOS and Ubuntu does not have these features and I was trying to install it first from Flatpak and then in apt-get. Both failed.
What is inaccurate? That I had a hard time trying to install a very basic feature on Mint and failed? Seems pretty straight forward.
Don’t get me started on installing Tailscale. While I was ultimately successful doing this in terminal, I would not want my mother in law trying to figure it out.
Try a different desktop environment instead of blaming all of Linux, my dude
My dude. What is a desktop environment? Do you automatically assume normies understand what that means?
This is further proof that this meme assumes that Linux wasn’t ready for normies 15 years ago but is ready now.
What are models of vehicles? What are different types of skiis? Shouldn’t just one book have all of human knowledge? I’m not assuming anything about Normie’s or anything, just telling you to try a different DE. Linux comes with options. You might want a sports car or you might want a truck. Before you buy a vehicle you look at what you want to do and then buy the right vehicle.
I guess when I’m expecting to have at least air conditioning instead of having my pick from thousands of different air conditioning systems from GitHub hoping it hasn’t been abandonware.
If I’m picking a specific system, I expect the engine to start when I turn the key, instead of a secret jiggle for it to work correctly.
Every time I install windows I needed to use the terminal to bypass microsoft’s online login requirement. Clearly Windows is not ready.
Let’s be real for a second. A normie would appreciate that there is a login that have saved their favorites and how their desktop is setup. A normie would appreciate that it remembers they are giving you localized news and weather and traffic.
A normie does not put privacy that high as a priority than you.
Trying to suggest that Linux is now ready for normies is a disservice to normies that try it and will never try it again for another 15 years.
My grandmother has been using Linux for five years now and she doesn’t know what Linux or Windows are. Its just the computer.
And don’t get me started on the registry editor
Terminal is easier than Windows, if you don’t want to use it, fine, but saying it’s harder is a lie.
If you hand someone a computer and powered up terminal and ask them to install an app like Tailscale. Watch them struggle without searching a forum on how to do it.
A normie will have zero clue what is a app get. A normie won’t know you have to use a dash for app-get on some operating systems vs another one.
Wow, you mean someone wont know how to do something if they’ve never done it before and are forbidden from looking for help? Astounding, get a research team on this.
But a single search will return dozens of results of the correct answer and then they’ll know, because it isn’t actually difficult and your argument is based in “I don’t want to learn” dressed up as “it’s too hard”
A very solvable problem with window tiling managers. There’s unironically thousands of them.
Linux just honestly might not be for you if a terminal is an insurmountable obstacle 🤷♀️ it’s how you interact with the basics of your computer. It’s worth ripping that bandaid off and getting over your fear of term imo. I honestly prefer software I can just run from the terminal.
I don’t want thousands of solutions. I need 1 that works out of the box for the OS I just installed. Also, why are there thousands of tiling solutions? How do I parse through all of them to know which one to install? Out of the thousand of solutions, which one will become abandonware or already abandoned?
I don’t disagree with you. I’m 100% onboard with your assessment on someone like me. A normie.
The argument here is that this meme suggests that Linux wasn’t ready for normies 15 years ago and is ready now(2025). My argument is it is not. Normies do not use terminal. We want intuitive UX. We want a smart decision tree of options we can take. What we don’t want is entering a script in terminal that could fail because we forgot a dash or transcribe a forward slash to a backslash.
Also, what you consider “basic” is relative. Your knowledge of computers is vastly different across the world.
I had a forum member on Reddit call me an idiot because I didn’t know what sudo was. Does that make me “basic”?
I think you want KDE. I’m using KDE on vanilla EndeavourOS and it snaps windows just fine. Hotkeys work too, just slightly different (super + page up instead of up arrow to maximize).
I will admit In have not tried KDE. I have tried popOS and Ubuntu outside of MintOS. Does it snap into 3 or 4 sections? I’ll give it a try if it does.