I’m a little tired of free speech absolutists looking at terrorist ideologies and concluding “No, man. That’s just an opinion.” as if we’re deciding which condiment we like most at a burger stand. Speech is regulated in some ways, and should be. (Look at Stolen Valor laws for an example.)
Fair, but that shut down should come from the government, not by having Internet infrastructure arbitrarily apply their executives personal morals to the situation.
Neither are those mostly conservative white men running our respective governments, looking to leverage what you propose to their own benefit i.e. censoring their critics on the left, labeling them domestic terrorists, rather than the fascist groups we were discussing.
Also you’ll note I said public pressure - commercial brands can be a lot more responsive to bad press than political parties.
Just because that’s the most helpful course now in our completely broken democracy doesn’t mean that’s how it should be.
And ultimately that was my point. It’s temporarily helpful, but we will not win with this weapon. We can do minor amounts of damage with it, but conservatives can use it to devastating effect. Deliberately keeping it open as an option is only going to bite us hard later.
Organizing for ethnic cleansing is neither speech nor an opinion, it’s domestic terrorism in the literal sense.
There is no right to plotting to destroy the fabric of society and countless people’s lives, nor should there be.
Came here to say something similar.
I’m a little tired of free speech absolutists looking at terrorist ideologies and concluding “No, man. That’s just an opinion.” as if we’re deciding which condiment we like most at a burger stand. Speech is regulated in some ways, and should be. (Look at Stolen Valor laws for an example.)
Fair, but that shut down should come from the government, not by having Internet infrastructure arbitrarily apply their executives personal morals to the situation.
I mean, sure in principle, but we know that’s just as flawed if not more in its application than public pressure on companies.
So we’re all just ok with the mostly conservative, white men that own these companies being our unelected moral compass then. Not much of a solution…
Neither are those mostly conservative white men running our respective governments, looking to leverage what you propose to their own benefit i.e. censoring their critics on the left, labeling them domestic terrorists, rather than the fascist groups we were discussing.
Also you’ll note I said public pressure - commercial brands can be a lot more responsive to bad press than political parties.
Just because that’s the most helpful course now in our completely broken democracy doesn’t mean that’s how it should be.
And ultimately that was my point. It’s temporarily helpful, but we will not win with this weapon. We can do minor amounts of damage with it, but conservatives can use it to devastating effect. Deliberately keeping it open as an option is only going to bite us hard later.
So we once again just need to overthrow capitalism, huh.