• Buffalox@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    84
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    28 days ago

    Qualcomm has a long history of being a patent license nazi, demanding exorbitant license fees, Arm does not. So I have no doubt which side I believe more in this.

        • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          20
          ·
          27 days ago

          That’s what THIS fight is about. Qualcomm bought Nuvia and in a nutshell they believe that they acquired Nuvia’s ARM license with that purchase, now they’re starting to sell chip designs that were done by Nuvia using their ARM license. ARM disagrees that Nuvia’s license transferred to Qualcomm and so here we are.

          The reason ARM is freaking out about this is because ARM sells functional designs and that’s what Qualcomm is starting to do with what they bought from Nuvia. Historically ARM has sold designs and Qualcomm sold chips but now ARM wants to start selling chips and Qualcomm wants to start selling designs.

          ARM may still be the good guy but they are not what / who they used to be. Softbank, the Japanese owner of ARM, has been losing its ass on tech investments and they want $$$. This is why ARM did their IPO last fall.

          Both ARM and Qualcomm now have the same fiscal pressures so they’re going to start acting in a similar fashion.

    • QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      28 days ago

      This definitely smells of Qualcomm being cheap. It’s got to be so bad that Arm has finally had enough. Wild.

    • Buffalox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      28 days ago

      Just in case there are others who suffer a brain fart like me, who had to look it up:
      FAFO = Fuck Around & Find Out.

      • errer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        27 days ago

        Oh good cause I was thinking “first in, first out” and thought ARM had sex with Qualcomm

  • Kokesh@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    28 days ago

    I’m not a huge fan of Qualcomm as a company, but what the hell will be in my next flagship phone I’m planning to buy next summer? Some weird chinese chipset? Or crappy Google CPU?

    • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      27 days ago

      but what the hell will be in my next flagship phone I’m planning to buy next summer

      Probably a Snapdragon X Elite Extreme Ultra Mega Pro XxxxX or whatever their naming scheme is now.

      The odds that ARM will get an injunction preventing Qualcomm from selling chips is basically zero. The courts are rarely going to torpedo an entire company over a dispute like this when the facts are very much in dispute and very… subjective.

      This is a scenario where nothing changes until the case ends and then either ARM has to build another moneybin to store their settlement, or literally nothing happens.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      27 days ago

      Google’s fine. They’re using ARM cores that are built on Samsung’s shittier manufacturing process. Next year they’re going TSMC which should improve power consumption dramatically. The lauded Dimensity 4000 also uses ARM cores, just newer and built on TSMC’s process. By the same token, newer Google SoCs should experience similar performance as they update the cores and manufacturing.

    • vonxylofon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      28 days ago

      MediaTek 9400 fits within 10% of Snapdragon 8 Elite, so if you don’t intend to load a custom ROM, I’d say there are options.