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Anyone who’s serious about home automation eventually realizes that the only way to do it effectively is with locally controlled standards based devices like zwave and zigbee, and open source projects like home assistant and esp32.
Anything else will eventually be corrupted or abandoned by its corporate sponsor, as anyone who’s tried it the other way can tell you.
I have nothing against advertising in general, but I won’t tolerate OS-level advertising and I don’t want ad-subsidized hardware.
Sorry, best we can do is a premium (expensive) ad-free tier that still advertises our own products.
I don’t have a problem with a streaming service doing that. Hardware, no. If I bought it, I own it and the manufacturer can fuck right off.
Gotta pay for the OS somehow. The previous system ended up with tons of unpatched out-of-support machines spreading malware.
Because 95% of them based their shit on Linux but refused to provide the shit available for the community to take over support.
Any OS with ads is malware.
I did, when I bought the device. And if the manufacturer does a good job, I’ll recommend them to friends and family and likely buy more of their products.
The FOSS community does most of the heavy lifting with security updates anyway. Most of these things are running Linux, so they’ve already helped themselves to that community’s work.
I’ll install my own OS, thank you
Smart devices are only useful if they are open source and everything can be self hosted. Everything else becomes a brick when the manufacturer drops support for it.
But they can’t sell you more shit if they didn’t have planned obsolescence baked in!
(It’s a little sobering realizing that technology is old enough to be, you know, OLD. Nothing about this is novel to anybody anymore. We’re way, way past being impressed by two lines batting a dot around.)Exactly, I have been using some of the same zwave devices for over 10 years. I don’t buy anything that needs the Internet unless I don’t have a choice and that device is not mission critical. I build many of my devices with esp home also.
For now, hubitat seems to be a good balance between slowly improving the support and experience vs. price paid. I opted in for their subscription that does automatic backups with recovery to a different device and managed remote access and I’m satisfied with the value received for the subscription fee.
I doubt this will last; if they get successful enough, somebody will buy them like the Samsung / Smartthings scenario and the enshittification will begin (or accelerate, depending on your opinion of the status quo).
Hopefully by then homeseer has a robust hardware ecosystem and migrating isn’t very painful.
And the author is right, no need to touch Matter at this point if you’re already vested in Z-Wave or ZigBee.
The fact that there is basically no good “premium” options for smart devices, just cheap adware trash or more diy type stuff with home assistant and the like, tells me there is not much of a mainstream market for most of these devices to begin with. If your only niche is just the hobby crowd or shit that has to be so cheap that you can’t make a profit without riddling it with ads then it might not be a market worth getting into.
Apple TV seems to be doing just fine. Considering investing in one. I don’t think it’s likely they’ll start putting ads in the hone screen and such.
I’m converting from Firesticks once the new Apple TVs come out. I’m sick of the constant upselling and Amazon’s been putting much more effort into blocking me from using a custom launcher than basic stability and usability.
