• ikidd@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Bitwarden has 2FA built in, and you can host it yourself if you want.

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      5 months ago

      I’ve looked into this before and unfortunately it doesn’t support the SMS requirement I have in my deal-breaker scenario—do you know if this has changed and can point me to the docs regarding it?

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        5 months ago

        Oops, missed that part. Not that I know of, though SMS is a terrible way to do 2FA. It annoys me so many businesses and banks use it.

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          5 months ago

          I agree it’s much worse than using a modern OTP app, but I need a way to access my OTP database when the only form of digital identity I have access to is my phone number.

          Authy currently supports this scenario for me (with a load of checks, it doesn’t happen instantly), so I would require a like for like replacement

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            5 months ago

            Bitwarden has a 2FA recovery code possible so you could use a unlabeled hard copy of the code. It cycles after every use so it would get you one recovery and doesn’t use SMS so it’s immune to SMS shenanigans.

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              5 months ago

              That’s potentially a solution then, as I guess in order to buy a new phone I would need to have not lost my wallet too at least, so I guess I could keep those items together for equivalent recovery possibility

              Okay that may be a goer, I’ll look a bit more into it, thanks!

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        5 months ago

        If you self host vaultwarden you won’t have an SMS backup, but provided you need the code to login to something online, you can log into Vaultwarden from anywhere with an internet connection.

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        Do you really need that ?

        Self hosting means you have outside your phone your real vault and the phone is just connecting to it to refresh its local data.

        I’ve setup my vaulwarden in my local network kit’s the local bitwarden server i use), my phone, tablet or simple webbrowser can connect to it when i’m home via the classic bitwarden (with self hosting parameters).

        If i travel, i have just to start my openVpn session and connect to my home but it’s only needed if I want to update something (the encrypted cache it’s enough for consulation). If I have nothing to change, no need to have a vpn. I just use the cached data.

        If my phone is stolen the data are safe (cache is encrypted, source is not on the phone). I revoke the vpn access by precaution and move one. No sms scenario needed here.

        You only need to have a backup phone or computer to setup your new access on the new phone.

        Edit: of course my vpn connection is protected by a passphrase so nobody can connect to my home network without me around. And the bitwarden app is also protected of course.

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          Do you have a second factor for your VPN? Or is it literally just a passphrase and you’re in? I also need a shared key to access mine, which puts new back at square one (I will not compromise on this)

          I do really need what I’ve described because it’s literally a situation I’ve been in.

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            5 months ago

            passphrase yes. It’s a long sentence than only me know.

            As i use this vpn only when travelling and the passphrase doesn’t change, i can use my phone or tablet cached data to get the passphrase if i forget it.

            And once connected to my home network via my vpn, i have access to all my services (vaultwarden, jellyfin, storage, etc…). All require of course login as i’m not accessing them from my local network.