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    The paper doesn’t say LLMs can’t reason, it shows that their reasoning abilities are limited and collapse under increasing complexity or novel structure.

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      I agree with the author.

      If these models were truly “reasoning,” they should get better with more compute and clearer instructions.

      The fact that they only work up to a certain point despite increased resources is proof that they are just pattern matching, not reasoning.

      • auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Performance eventually collapses due to architectural constraints, this mirrors cognitive overload in humans: reasoning isn’t just about adding compute, it requires mechanisms like abstraction, recursion, and memory. The models’ collapse doesn’t prove “only pattern matching”, it highlights that today’s models simulate reasoning in narrow bands, but lack the structure to scale it reliably. That is a limitation of implementation, not a disproof of emergent reasoning.

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            Brother you better hope it does because even if emissions dropped to 0 tonight the planet wouldnt stop warming and it wouldn’t stop what’s coming for us.

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              If emissions dropped to 0 tonight, we would be substantially better off than if we maintain our current trajectory. Doomerism helps nobody.

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              If the situation gets dire, it’s likely that the weather will be manipulated. Countries would then have to be convinced not to use this for military purposes.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The paper doesn’t say LLMs can’t reason

      Authors gotta get paid. This article is full of pseudo-scientific jargon.